* wierd problem
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@ 2007-08-14 13:41 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
2007-08-14 15:07 ` Taco Hoekwater
2007-08-15 0:10 ` MetaFont Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
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From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-08-14 13:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context-request@ntg.nl
Hello,
I use
\usetypescriptfile[mytypescripts]
\usetypescript[acaslonpro]
in the main file.
The mytypescrips file looks like
%Adobe Caslon Pro typeface
\starttypescript [serif] [acaslonpro]
\definefontsynonym [ACaslonProRegular][name:ACaslonPro-Regular][features=default]
\definefontsynonym [ACaslonProItalic][name:ACaslonPro-Italic][features=default]
\definefontsynonym [ACaslonProBold][name:ACaslonPro-Bold][features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [serif] [acaslonpro]
\definefontsynonym [Serif][ACaslonProRegular][features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic][ACaslonProItalic][features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold][ACaslonProBold][features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [acaslonpro]
\definetypeface[acaslonpro][rm][serif][acaslonpro][default]
\stoptypescript
If to remove start/stop around \definetypeface, luatex enters infine loop.
Best,
Vyatchelsav
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* Re: wierd problem
2007-08-14 13:41 ` wierd problem Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
@ 2007-08-14 15:07 ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2007-08-14 15:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Does this help?
>
> \starttypescript [acaslonpro]
> \definetypeface[acaslonpro][rm][serif][acaslonpro][default]
\definetypeface[acaslonprotypeface][rm][serif][acaslonpro][default]
> \stoptypescript
Taco
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* Re: MetaFont
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2007-08-14 13:41 ` wierd problem Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
@ 2007-08-15 0:10 ` Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
2007-08-15 1:09 ` MetaFont Martin Schröder
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From: Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini @ 2007-08-15 0:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
> >> I am still using MetaFont typefaces.
> >> Will too LuaTeX support MetaFont as PdfTeX does?
>
> Yes (as Hans and Martin said already). But you really should
> consider switching to outline fonts.
I am looking for a good way to convert these fonts to type1, but
textrace and mftrace don't run under windows and the results of
mf2pt1 are not (yet) ok. I am working on this.
Has anybody ever tried to rewrite metafont to produce type1 fonts?
Wolfgang
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* Re: MetaFont
2007-08-15 0:10 ` MetaFont Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
@ 2007-08-15 1:09 ` Martin Schröder
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From: Martin Schröder @ 2007-08-15 1:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2007/8/15, Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini <wwl@musensturm.de>:
> Has anybody ever tried to rewrite metafont to produce type1 fonts?
Yes. The Gyre project is using an extended Metapost to generate Type1
and OTF fonts.
Best
Martin
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* Re: MetaFont
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@ 2007-08-17 20:53 ` Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
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From: Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini @ 2007-08-17 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
> >>> But this does massivly restrict metafonts capabilities. Pens
> for
> >>> example are not allowed (Metafont with applied handbrake)!
> >> I agree, metatype1 is not very easy to use if you are familiar
> >> with
> >> metafont already. For existing fonts, mf2pt1 is in general the
> >> best
> >> approach, I think. There is a (patched?) version out there that
> >> delegates most the hard work to fontforge, and it's results are
> >> normally
> >> quite acceptable.
> >
> > There was once (1990) an article in TUGboat 11:4, pages 525-541
> > which discribes an patch to mf84. The patched mf could produce
> type3
> > fonts. Should'nt it be possible to do the same for type1?
>
> Not without a lot of effort. Type3 fonts allow all sorts of stuff
> that is illegal in Type1, like overlapping and mixing of strokes
> and fills.
The cases where fontforge is refusing, are cases which are best
handeld inside metafont, where one has the knowledge: a.) elliptical
curves, which are represented by polygons (lots of points and
resolution depandend) and should converted to something smoother, and
b.) short epicycles, which are also artifacts from penmotions, which
can easyly be detected and replaced by an corner point.
Wolfgang
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* Re: MetaFont
2007-08-16 9:59 ` MetaFont Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
@ 2007-08-16 12:48 ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2007-08-16 12:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
>>> But this does massivly restrict metafonts capabilities. Pens for
>>> example are not allowed (Metafont with applied handbrake)!
>> I agree, metatype1 is not very easy to use if you are familiar
>> with
>> metafont already. For existing fonts, mf2pt1 is in general the
>> best
>> approach, I think. There is a (patched?) version out there that
>> delegates most the hard work to fontforge, and it's results are
>> normally
>> quite acceptable.
>
> There was once (1990) an article in TUGboat 11:4, pages 525-541
> which discribes an patch to mf84. The patched mf could produce type3
> fonts. Should'nt it be possible to do the same for type1?
Not without a lot of effort. Type3 fonts allow all sorts of stuff
that is illegal in Type1, like overlapping and mixing of strokes
and fills.
Best wishes,
Taco
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* Re: MetaFont
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2007-08-16 12:48 ` MetaFont Taco Hoekwater
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From: Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini @ 2007-08-16 9:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
> > But this does massivly restrict metafonts capabilities. Pens for
> > example are not allowed (Metafont with applied handbrake)!
>
> I agree, metatype1 is not very easy to use if you are familiar
> with
> metafont already. For existing fonts, mf2pt1 is in general the
> best
> approach, I think. There is a (patched?) version out there that
> delegates most the hard work to fontforge, and it's results are
> normally
> quite acceptable.
There was once (1990) an article in TUGboat 11:4, pages 525-541
which discribes an patch to mf84. The patched mf could produce type3
fonts. Should'nt it be possible to do the same for type1?
Wolfgang
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* Re: MetaFont
2007-08-15 10:45 ` MetaFont Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
@ 2007-08-15 11:39 ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2007-08-15 11:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
>>> Has anybody ever tried to rewrite metafont to produce type1
>> fonts?
>>
>> Yes. The Gyre project is using an extended Metapost to generate
>> Type1
>> and OTF fonts.
>>
>>
>
> That's MetaType1?
> But this does massivly restrict metafonts capabilities. Pens for
> example are not allowed (Metafont with applied handbrake)!
I agree, metatype1 is not very easy to use if you are familiar with
metafont already. For existing fonts, mf2pt1 is in general the best
approach, I think. There is a (patched?) version out there that
delegates most the hard work to fontforge, and it's results are normally
quite acceptable.
Best wishes,
Taco
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* Re: MetaFont
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2007-08-15 11:39 ` MetaFont Taco Hoekwater
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From: Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini @ 2007-08-15 10:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
> > Has anybody ever tried to rewrite metafont to produce type1
> fonts?
>
> Yes. The Gyre project is using an extended Metapost to generate
> Type1
> and OTF fonts.
>
> Best
> Martin
>
That's MetaType1?
But this does massivly restrict metafonts capabilities. Pens for
example are not allowed (Metafont with applied handbrake)!
Wolfgang
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* Re: MetaFont
2007-08-13 11:18 ` MetaFont Hans Hagen
2007-08-13 11:23 ` MetaFont Martin Schröder
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2007-08-14 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hans Hagen wrote:
> Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
>> Hallo,
>>
>> I am still using MetaFont typefaces.
>> Will too LuaTeX support MetaFont as PdfTeX does?
Yes (as Hans and Martin said already). But you really should
consider switching to outline fonts.
Taco
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* Re: MetaFont
2007-08-13 11:18 ` MetaFont Hans Hagen
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From: Martin Schröder @ 2007-08-13 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2007/8/13, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> as long as you use tfm files and have proper map entries
"Pixel fonts can be used without being listed in the map file."
Best
Martin
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* Re: MetaFont
2007-08-13 11:07 MetaFont Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
2007-08-13 11:18 ` MetaFont Hans Hagen
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From: Martin Schröder @ 2007-08-13 11:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2007/8/13, Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini <wwl@musensturm.de>:
> I am still using MetaFont typefaces.
> Will too LuaTeX support MetaFont as PdfTeX does?
Of course. It's still TeX. :-)
Best
Martin
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* Re: MetaFont
2007-08-13 11:07 MetaFont Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-08-13 11:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> I am still using MetaFont typefaces.
> Will too LuaTeX support MetaFont as PdfTeX does?
as long as you use tfm files and have proper map entries
Hans
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* MetaFont
@ 2007-08-13 11:07 Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
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From: Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini @ 2007-08-13 11:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hallo,
I am still using MetaFont typefaces.
Will too LuaTeX support MetaFont as PdfTeX does?
Wolfgang
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