what’s up with \setupdelimitedtext[method=font]?

what’s up with \setupdelimitedtext[method=font]?

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Hi again,
the following example used to work with LMTX (but not MkIV) from September.

Now I get the "narrower" indentation only if I comment the first line (in both versions) – apparently there’s a setup conflict, and I don’t know any more why I needed this setup.

Could you explain what it does (did, should do)?

Hraban


\setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font] % hanging quotation marks
%\setupalign[hanging]
\setupnarrower[left=2em,right=1.5em]

\definenarrower[Zitat]
\setupnarrower[Zitat]
 [left=2em,
  right=1.5em,
  before=\dontleavehmode\hskip-0.33em\startquotation,
  % fake hanging quotation mark
  after=\stopquotation]

\usemodule[visual]

\starttext

\fakewords{50}{50}

\startquotation
quotation \fakewords{100}{100}
\stopquotation\footnote{about quotation}

\startZitat
Zitat \fakewords{100}{100}
\stopZitat\footnote{about Zitat}

\stoptext

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Re: what’s up with \setupdelimitedtext[method=font]?

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

> Am 14.01.2021 um 10:44 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
> 
> Hi again,
> the following example used to work with LMTX (but not MkIV) from September.
> 
> Now I get the "narrower" indentation only if I comment the first line (in both versions) – apparently there’s a setup conflict, and I don’t know any more why I needed this setup.
> 
> Could you explain what it does (did, should do)?
> 
> Hraban
> 
> 
> \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font] % hanging quotation marks
> %\setupalign[hanging]
> \setupnarrower[left=2em,right=1.5em]
> 
> \definenarrower[Zitat]
> \setupnarrower[Zitat]
> [left=2em,
>  right=1.5em,
>  before=\dontleavehmode\hskip-0.33em\startquotation,
>  % fake hanging quotation mark
>  after=\stopquotation]
> 
> \usemodule[visual]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \fakewords{50}{50}
> 
> \startquotation
> quotation \fakewords{100}{100}
> \stopquotation\footnote{about quotation}
> 
> \startZitat
> Zitat \fakewords{100}{100}
> \stopZitat\footnote{about Zitat}
> 
> \stoptext

Ah, I recognized the problem again:

I need the footnote marker at the closing quotation mark. \setupdelimitedtext... does that, but kills the indent. Without the setup, I get the indent, but the footnote marker moves to the next line.

And there’s a problem with MkIV (--luatex): TeX stops with **, after entering \end, I get the PDF, so something’s unclosed.

Hraban
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Re: what’s up with \setupdelimitedtext[method=font]?

[Hans Hagen]

On 1/14/2021 10:44 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Hi again,
> the following example used to work with LMTX (but not MkIV) from September.
> 
> Now I get the "narrower" indentation only if I comment the first line (in both versions) – apparently there’s a setup conflict, and I don’t know any more why I needed this setup.
> 
> Could you explain what it does (did, should do)?
> 
> Hraban
> 
> 
> \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font] % hanging quotation marks
> %\setupalign[hanging]
> \setupnarrower[left=2em,right=1.5em]
> 
> \definenarrower[Zitat]
> \setupnarrower[Zitat]
>   [left=2em,
>    right=1.5em,
>    before=\dontleavehmode\hskip-0.33em\startquotation,
>    % fake hanging quotation mark
>    after=\stopquotation]
> 
> \usemodule[visual]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \fakewords{50}{50}
> 
> \startquotation
> quotation \fakewords{100}{100}
> \stopquotation\footnote{about quotation}
> 
> \startZitat
> Zitat \fakewords{100}{100}
> \stopZitat\footnote{about Zitat}
> 
> \stoptext
can you test with (in cont-new.mkxl)

\def\spac_narrower_start_apply#1%
   {\narrowerparameter\c!before
    \global\s_spac_narrower_left  \zeropoint
    \global\s_spac_narrower_right \zeropoint
    \global\s_spac_narrower_middle\zeropoint
    \edef\askednarrower{#1}%
    \ifx\askednarrower\v!reverse
      \ifconditional\s_spac_narrower_last_swap
        \frozen\leftskip \s_spac_narrower_right_last
        \frozen\rightskip\s_spac_narrower_left_last
        \setfalse\s_spac_narrower_last_swap
      \else
        \frozen\leftskip \s_spac_narrower_left_last
        \frozen\rightskip\s_spac_narrower_right_last
        \settrue\s_spac_narrower_last_swap
      \fi
    \else
 
\normalexpanded{\processcommalistwithparameters[\askednarrower]}\spac_narrower_initialize
      \frozen\advance\leftskip \dimexpr\s_spac_narrower_left 
+\s_spac_narrower_middle\relax
 
\frozen\advance\rightskip\dimexpr\s_spac_narrower_right+\s_spac_narrower_middle\relax
    \fi
    \seteffectivehsize}



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Re: what’s up with \setupdelimitedtext[method=font]?

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

> Am 14.01.2021 um 14:58 schrieb Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>:
> 
> can you test with (in cont-new.mkxl)
> 
> \def\spac_narrower_start_apply#1%
>  {\narrowerparameter\c!before
>   \global\s_spac_narrower_left  \zeropoint
>   \global\s_spac_narrower_right \zeropoint
>   \global\s_spac_narrower_middle\zeropoint
>   \edef\askednarrower{#1}%
>   \ifx\askednarrower\v!reverse
>     \ifconditional\s_spac_narrower_last_swap
>       \frozen\leftskip \s_spac_narrower_right_last
>       \frozen\rightskip\s_spac_narrower_left_last
>       \setfalse\s_spac_narrower_last_swap
>     \else
>       \frozen\leftskip \s_spac_narrower_left_last
>       \frozen\rightskip\s_spac_narrower_right_last
>       \settrue\s_spac_narrower_last_swap
>     \fi
>   \else
> \normalexpanded{\processcommalistwithparameters[\askednarrower]}\spac_narrower_initialize
>     \frozen\advance\leftskip \dimexpr\s_spac_narrower_left +\s_spac_narrower_middle\relax
> \frozen\advance\rightskip\dimexpr\s_spac_narrower_right+\s_spac_narrower_middle\relax
>   \fi
>   \seteffectivehsize}
> 

Yes, that works with LMTX, thank you!

MkIV still fails, but cont-new.mkxl is LMTX only, I guess?

Hraban
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