Re: Question about t-ancientgreek module

[Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu>]

Thomas—

I followed your instructions in step 2 and see that the Greek  
hyphenation patterns are not loaded in the format I currently use.  
How can I rectify this?

Best, Alan

PS lang-agr.hyp and lang-agr.pat currently reside in
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/patterns


On May 25, 2006, at 12:10 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

> On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 13:37 +0000, jeffdod@netzero.net wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a question about the t-ancientgreek module for typesetting
>> ancient Greek.
>>
>> I am using DroppedCaps (although I am dropping a numeral instead of a
>> letter in a paragraph...I modified the DroppedString to contain the
>> numerals 0-9) in a paragraph of ancient Greek typeset in the
>> GreekGentiumAlt font. Most paragraphs look fine, but occasionally a
>> word will extend out into the margin instead of being hyphenated or
>> wrapped over into the next line.
>>
>> Here is a bit of sample code that shows this:
>>
>> % Use t-ancientgreek module for typesetting ancient Koine Greek
>> \usemodule[ancientgreek][font=GreekGentiumAlt,scale=1]
>>
>> % Set up indentation parameters
>> \setupindenting[medium]
>> \indenting[always]
>>
>> % Set up inter-paragraph spacing
>> \setupwhitespace[medium]
>>
>> % Set up macros to handle drop-cap chapter numbers
>> \def\DropChapOne{\DroppedCaps{}{Serif}{3.8\baselineskip}{2pt}{2
>> \baselineskip}{3}}
>> \def\DropChap{\DroppedCaps{}{Serif}{2.3\baselineskip}{3pt}{1
>> \baselineskip}{2}}
>>
>> % Set up book start macro...Syntax: book[Chapter][Verse]{Text}
>> \def\book[#1][#2]#3{\par\DropChapOne{#1}\localgreek{#3}}
>>
>> % Set up chapter start macro...Syntax: chapt[Chapter][Verse]{Text}
>> \def\chap[#1][#2]#3{\par\DropChap{#1}\localgreek{#3}}
>>
>> % Set up verse macro...Syntax: verse[Chapter][Verse]{Text}
>> \def\verse[#1][#2]#3{\high{\tfxx \bf #2}\localgreek{#3}}
>>
>> \starttext
>> \book[1][1]{Ὃ ἦ ἀ'' ἀῆ, ὃ ἀ, ὃ ἑ ῖ ὀῖ  
>> ἡῶ, ὃ ἐ, ὶ ἱ ῖ ἡῶ ἐ ὶ ῦ ῆ ῆ.}
>> \verse[1][2]{ὶ ἡ ὴ ἐ, ὶ ἑ, ὶ ῦ, ὶ ἀ ὑῖ  
>> ὴ ὴ ὴ ἰ, ἥ ἦ ὸ ὸ , ὶ ἐ ἡῖ.}
>> \verse[1][3]{Ὃ ἑ ὶ ἀ, ἀ ὑῖ, ἵ ὶ ὑῖ ἔ ''  
>> ἡῶ· ὶ ἡ ὲ ἡ ἡ ὰ ῦ ὸ ὶ ὰ ῦ ἱῦ
>> ὐῦ Ἰῦ ῦ·}\stoptext
>>
>> Note also that some fonts show this problem while others do not. For
>> instance, the Aristarcoj font does not show this problem. Also, if I
>> remove the dropped cap numeral from any given paragraph, the problem
>> does away.
>>
>> Does anyone know what I might be doing wrong, or how I can correct
>> this problem? Any help anyone is able to give will be greatly
>> appreciated!
>>
>> Jeff Dodson
>>
> Jeff,
>
> what exactly is wrong with the output you get? Your file compiles
> perfectly here, I have no words sticking out in the margins. Also note
> that in your example file ConTeXt will not be able to find any
> hyphenation points because  these are not Greek words. I have never  
> used
> Dropped Caps, so I don't know whether there's any interference with  
> the
> ancientgreek module. The way you describe the problem, it simply looks
> like (Con)TeX(t) just cannot find the right place to break lines; this
> may happen if, e.g., your paragraphs are very narrow. So here's a  
> couple
> of questions and suggestions to help you troubleshoot:
>
> 1. Do you get any hyphenation in the Greek text at all (assuming  
> you are
> using "real" Greek text, not dummy text like in your sample)? Test  
> with
> something like
> \startgreek
> \hyphenatedword{filosfo'umena}
> \stopgreek
>
> 2. Check if patterns for ancient Greek are included in the format you
> use. Go to the directory where your formats are located (kpsewhich
> cont-en.fmt) and run
> grep agr cont-en.log
> Here's what I get on my box:
>  grep agr cont-en.log
> encoding        : coding agr is loaded
> (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/base/enco-agr.tex)
> language        : patterns for agr not loaded
> language        : patterns for agr not loaded
> language        : patterns agr for agr loaded (n=24,e=agr,m=agr)
> (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/patterns/lang-agr.pat)
> language        : hyphenations agr for agr loaded (n=24,e=agr,m=agr)
> (/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/patterns/lang-agr.hyp)
>
> 3. Check that the patterns for ancient Greek are actually used when  
> you
> compile your file (I just see that there's a problem in my  
> installation
> on Suse 10.1 while everyhting works fine in Fedora Core 5:
>
> grep agr testfile.log
>> 22->2:3 us->ec:ec->23->2:3 agr->agr:agr->24->2:3 da->ec:ec->25->2:3
> sv->ec:ec-
> [snip]
>
> This is the line that shows that agr patterns are used.
>
> 4. If you do get hyphenation, try setting the tolerance a bit  
> higher in
> your preamble:
>
> \setuptolerance[strict]
>
> HTH
>
> Thomas
>
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