From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/89081 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Blackstone Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: (again) bug in index sorting? 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[81.204.112.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ce1sm22032387wjc.2.2014.11.03.04.22.28 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Nov 2014 04:22:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: ntg-context@ntg.nl, base:default, @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b; country=IE X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 01Nb0mudq - 1bd02b7ceaa1 - 20141103 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: "ntg-context" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:89081 Archived-At: --===============0090340158== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4C6EDA7B-2F74-4D8A-9E83-7FD3CEC5D9B6" --Apple-Mail=_4C6EDA7B-2F74-4D8A-9E83-7FD3CEC5D9B6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On 3 Nov 2014, at 10:01 , Alan BRASLAU wrote >=20 > On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 12:45:25 +0100 > Robert Blackstone wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> On 2 Nov 2014, at 12:00 , Pablo Rodriguez wrote >>>=20 >>> I > Alphabetize letter by letter. When alphabetizing surnames, remember > that =93nothing precedes something=94: Brown, J. R., precedes = Browning, A. > R., even though i precedes j in the alphabet. >=20 > Singh, Y., precedes Singh Siddhu, N.=20 > L=F3pez, M. E., precedes L=F3pez de Molina, G. > Ibn Abdulaziz, T., precedes Ibn Nidal, A. K. M. > Girard, J.-B., precedes Girard-Perregaux, A. S. > Villafuerte, S. A., precedes Villa-Lobos, J. > Benjamin, A. S., precedes ben Yaakov, D. Hi Alan,=20 This still puzzles me a bit.=20 You write: =93Brown, J. R., precedes Browning, A.R., even though i = precedes j in the alphabet.=94=20 But isn=92t that because =93," precedes =93i" ? Likewise, when sorting these names (with TeX-Edit Plus), Singh Siddhu, = N. comes out before Singh, Y., not the reverse, precisely because, as = you say, =93nothing precedes something=94, or the space between Singh = and Siddhu precedes the comma between Singh and Y. Same with L=F3pez de Molina, G. and L=F3pez, M. E. Or does ConTeXt, or TeX, have its own sorting order? Best regards, Robert Blackstone --Apple-Mail=_4C6EDA7B-2F74-4D8A-9E83-7FD3CEC5D9B6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
On 3 Nov 2014, at 10:01 , Alan BRASLAU = <alan.braslau@cea.fr> = wrote

On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 12:45:25 = +0100
Robert Blackstone <blackstone.robert@gmail.com> wrote:


On 2 Nov 2014, at = 12:00 ,  Pablo Rodriguez <
oinos@gmx.es> wrote

I
Alphabetize letter by = letter. When alphabetizing surnames, remember
that =93nothing = precedes something=94: Brown, J. R., precedes Browning, A.
R., even = though i precedes j in the alphabet.

Singh, Y., precedes Singh = Siddhu, N.
L=F3pez, M. E., precedes L=F3pez de Molina, G.
Ibn = Abdulaziz, T., precedes Ibn Nidal, A. K. M.
Girard, J.-B., precedes = Girard-Perregaux, A. S.
Villafuerte, S. A., precedes Villa-Lobos, = J.
Benjamin, A. S., precedes ben Yaakov, = D.

Hi Alan, 
This = still puzzles me a bit. 
You write: =93Brown, J. R., = precedes Browning, A.R., even though i precedes j in the = alphabet.=94 
But isn=92t that because =93," = precedes =93i" ?
Likewise, when sorting these names (with = TeX-Edit Plus), Singh Siddhu, N. comes out  before Singh, Y., = not the reverse, precisely because, as you say, =93nothing precedes = something=94, or the space between Singh and Siddhu precedes =  the comma between Singh and Y.
Same with L=F3pez de = Molina, G. and L=F3pez, M. = E.

Or does ConTeXt, or TeX, have its own sorting = order?

Best regards,
Robert = Blackstone




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