From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/86188 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Keith J. Schultz" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: A default editor for ConTeXt standalone? Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 09:54:26 +0100 Message-ID: <6C63196E-1481-4563-8E71-C111419F0755@uni-trier.de> References: <20140205074106.5ec80b2d@aga-netbook> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1391590468 5158 80.91.229.3 (5 Feb 2014 08:54:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 08:54:28 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Feb 05 09:54:37 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WAyFf-0003PN-ET for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 09:54:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA142101EF; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 09:54:34 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id wWhTWEdV+lsF; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 09:54:33 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EE6101E2; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 09:54:33 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD47101E2 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 09:54:32 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id tkVLkOyNtZ6Z for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 09:54:29 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter3-til.mf.surf.net (filter3-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.219]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC39101E1 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 09:54:29 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mx2.uni-trier.de (mx2.uni-trier.de [136.199.224.18]) by filter3-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id s158sSgd016499 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 09:54:28 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.95,785,1384297200"; d="scan'208";a="9148381" Original-Received: from rzmail.uni-trier.de ([136.199.8.220]) by mx2i.uni-trier.de with ESMTP; 05 Feb 2014 09:54:27 +0100 Original-Received: from [10.0.62.7] (dslb-084-058-235-086.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.58.235.86]) by rzmail.uni-trier.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D83453FF05 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 09:54:27 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <20140205074106.5ec80b2d@aga-netbook> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: ntg-context@ntg.nl, base:default, @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=136.199.224.18; country=DE; region=08; city=Trier; latitude=49.7500; longitude=6.6333; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=49.7500,6.6333&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 06LmwSsgM - 5d5ca46f3351 - 20140205 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.219 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:86188 Archived-At: Hi, As nice as it would be to have ConTeXt Standalone offer an editor, I personally believe that it should not be done. 1) Those that have TeXlive already TeXWorks At least it is setup for TeXLive and can be set up to use ConTeXt Standalone and other distros at the same time. 2) ConTeXt supports many OSes a) adding editor support opens a big can of worms inorder to be non-eavsive and not clobber special settings that a user might have in place. b) TeXWorks is nice, yet not for everyone. Furthermore on the Mac one has TeXShop, it was the basis for TeXWorks! I would suggest TeXShop to Mac Users. c) No offense to power users, emacs Ughhhh! Emacs comes with a learning curve! Should add something in that beginners and the uninclined might consider a recommondation, where they would be better off using a different "IDE". To reinterate, editors and IDEs are a matter of taste. Depending on the platform one is on there are different choices which are easy enough to install and use. It would be to difficult for ConTeXt to avoid ruining someones set up that they have. regards Keith. Am 05.02.2014 um 07:41 schrieb Marcin Borkowski : > Hi all, > > just a thought. Some time ago wise people decided to include TeXworks > into TeXlive, so that newbies installing TeXlive can get a > "batteries-included" package (not having to choose/install an editor). > Would it be (a) reasonable and (b) not too much time-consuming to do a > similar move with ConTeXt standalone? I'm not saying it would have to > be TeXworks (or my beloved Emacs, for that matter;)). I am aware that > this is an additional work to maintain etc., and I'm probably not > capable of doing it myself, but... > > What do you think? > > -- > Marcin Borkowski > http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski > Adam Mickiewicz University > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________