definefallbackfamily and uppercasedoublestruck not working?

definefallbackfamily and uppercasedoublestruck not working?

[Mikael P. Sundqvist]

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Hi!

I use the Neo Euler which has no doublestruck characters. Maybe I use old
code, but I really think that the following has worked before:

%%%
\definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [TeX Gyre Pagella]
\definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [TeX Gyre Pagella
Math][range=uppercasedoublestruck]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [mm] [Neo Euler]
\setupbodyfont[mainface,12pt]
\starttext
\startTEXpage[offset=3pt]
Test: $\blackboard C$ or $\mathbb C$

\switchtobodyfont[pagella]
Test: $\blackboard C$ or $\mathbb C$
\stopTEXpage
\stoptex
%%%

I would expect doublestruck letters in the output on the first line. The
resulting file, compiled with a fresh Standalone, is attached.

Best regards, Mikael

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Re: definefallbackfamily and uppercasedoublestruck not working?

[Henri]

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No solution, just another oddity...

\definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [TeX Gyre Pagella]
\definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [TeX Gyre Pagella Math] [range=uppercasedoublestruck]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [mm] [Neo Euler]
\setupbodyfont[mainface,12pt]
\starttext
\startTEXpage[offset=3pt]
Test: $𝔺$ or $\utfchar{"1D53A}$ or $\blackboard C$ or $\mathbb C$

\switchtobodyfont[pagella]
Test: $𝔺$ or $\utfchar{"1D53A}$ or $\blackboard C$ or $\mathbb C$
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext

On Fri, 2017-11-24 at 13:07 +0100, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I use the Neo Euler which has no doublestruck characters. Maybe I use old code, but I really think
> that the following has worked before:
> 
> %%%
> \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [TeX Gyre Pagella]
> \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [TeX Gyre Pagella Math][range=uppercasedoublestruck]
> \definefontfamily [mainface] [mm] [Neo Euler]
> \setupbodyfont[mainface,12pt]
> \starttext
> \startTEXpage[offset=3pt]
> Test: $\blackboard C$ or $\mathbb C$
> 
> \switchtobodyfont[pagella]
> Test: $\blackboard C$ or $\mathbb C$
> \stopTEXpage
> \stoptex
> %%%
> 
> I would expect doublestruck letters in the output on the first line. The resulting file, compiled
> with a fresh Standalone, is attached.
> 
> Best regards, Mikael
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Re: definefallbackfamily and uppercasedoublestruck not working?

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/25/2017 5:11 AM, Henri wrote:
> No solution, just another oddity...
> 
> \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [TeX Gyre Pagella]
> \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [TeX Gyre Pagella Math] [range=uppercasedoublestruck]
> \definefontfamily [mainface] [mm] [Neo Euler]
> \setupbodyfont[mainface,12pt]
> \starttext
> \startTEXpage[offset=3pt]
> Test: $𝔺$ or $\utfchar{"1D53A}$ or $\blackboard C$ or $\mathbb C$
> 
> \switchtobodyfont[pagella]
> Test: $𝔺$ or $\utfchar{"1D53A}$ or $\blackboard C$ or $\mathbb C$
> \stopTEXpage
> \stoptext
welcome to unicode ... what you're looking for is

DOUBLE-STRUCK CAPITAL C  "02102

it's real bad that these alphabets have holes due to a few already 
present symbols

now, if you can argue that doublestruck C is not always used the same 
you might be able to push that slot (maybe we should start lobbying that 
... after all now that emoji come in variants ...)

Hans

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Re: definefallbackfamily and uppercasedoublestruck not working?

[Mikael P. Sundqvist]

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On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> On 11/25/2017 5:11 AM, Henri wrote:
>
>> No solution, just another oddity...
>>
>> \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [TeX Gyre Pagella]
>> \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
>> [range=uppercasedoublestruck]
>> \definefontfamily [mainface] [mm] [Neo Euler]
>> \setupbodyfont[mainface,12pt]
>> \starttext
>> \startTEXpage[offset=3pt]
>> Test: $𝔺$ or $\utfchar{"1D53A}$ or $\blackboard C$ or $\mathbb C$
>>
>> \switchtobodyfont[pagella]
>> Test: $𝔺$ or $\utfchar{"1D53A}$ or $\blackboard C$ or $\mathbb C$
>> \stopTEXpage
>> \stoptext
>>
> welcome to unicode ... what you're looking for is
>
> DOUBLE-STRUCK CAPITAL C  "02102
>
> it's real bad that these alphabets have holes due to a few already present
> symbols
>
> now, if you can argue that doublestruck C is not always used the same you
> might be able to push that slot (maybe we should start lobbying that ...
> after all now that emoji come in variants ...)
>
> Hans
>
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I agree that it is strange to have those holes due to present symbols. Will
the code I used work in an updated beta, or should we proceed in some other
way?

/MIkael

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Re: definefallbackfamily and uppercasedoublestruck not working?

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 11/25/2017 03:10 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
> [...]
> I agree that it is strange to have those holes due to present symbols.
> Will the code I used work in an updated beta, or should we proceed in
> some other way?

Hi Mikael,

math is all Greek to me, but this seems to work (I guess, fallback
should beextended to actual character:

    \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [TeX Gyre Pagella]
    \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
        [range={uppercasedoublestruck, 0x02102-0x02124}]
    \definefontfamily [mainface] [mm] [Neo Euler]
    \setupbodyfont[mainface,12pt]
    \starttext
    \startTEXpage[offset=3pt]
    Test: $\blackboard C$ or $\mathbb P$

    \switchtobodyfont[pagella]
    Test: $\blackboard C$ or $\mathbb P$
    \stopTEXpage
    \stoptext

Just in case it helps,

Pablo
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Re: definefallbackfamily and uppercasedoublestruck not working?

[Mikael P. Sundqvist]

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On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:

> On 11/25/2017 03:10 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
> > [...]
> > I agree that it is strange to have those holes due to present symbols.
> > Will the code I used work in an updated beta, or should we proceed in
> > some other way?
>
> Hi Mikael,
>
> math is all Greek to me, but this seems to work (I guess, fallback
> should beextended to actual character:
>
>     \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [TeX Gyre Pagella]
>     \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
>         [range={uppercasedoublestruck, 0x02102-0x02124}]
>     \definefontfamily [mainface] [mm] [Neo Euler]
>     \setupbodyfont[mainface,12pt]
>     \starttext
>     \startTEXpage[offset=3pt]
>     Test: $\blackboard C$ or $\mathbb P$
>
>     \switchtobodyfont[pagella]
>     Test: $\blackboard C$ or $\mathbb P$
>     \stopTEXpage
>     \stoptext
>
> Just in case it helps,
>
> Pablo
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Paulo, thanks! I should have thought of that workaround myself! Thank you!

/Mikael

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Re: definefallbackfamily and uppercasedoublestruck not working?

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/25/2017 3:36 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es 
> <mailto:oinos@gmx.es>> wrote:
> 
>     On 11/25/2017 03:10 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
>      > [...]
>     > I agree that it is strange to have those holes due to present symbols.
>     > Will the code I used work in an updated beta, or should we proceed in
>     > some other way?
> 
>     Hi Mikael,
> 
>     math is all Greek to me, but this seems to work (I guess, fallback
>     should beextended to actual character:
> 
>          \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [TeX Gyre Pagella]
>          \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [mm] [TeX Gyre Pagella Math]
>              [range={uppercasedoublestruck, 0x02102-0x02124}]
>          \definefontfamily [mainface] [mm] [Neo Euler]
>          \setupbodyfont[mainface,12pt]
>          \starttext
>          \startTEXpage[offset=3pt]
>          Test: $\blackboard C$ or $\mathbb P$
> 
>          \switchtobodyfont[pagella]
>          Test: $\blackboard C$ or $\mathbb P$
>          \stopTEXpage
>          \stoptext
> 
>     Just in case it helps,
> 
>     Pablo
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> 
> Paulo, thanks! I should have thought of that workaround myself! Thank you!
in math-act.lua you can add a line (790):

                     if gaps then
                         for unic, unicode in next, gaps do
                             remap(unic,unicode,true)
                             remap(unicode,unicode,true)
                         end
                     end




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