From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/21538 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mojca Miklavec Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Proper kerning of quotations in German Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:16:18 +0200 Message-ID: <6faad9f0050721091647d97ad1@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: Mojca Miklavec , mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1121962648 2446 80.91.229.2 (21 Jul 2005 16:17:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:17:28 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jul 21 18:17:22 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dvdil-00010H-3A for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:16:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF6B127FE; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:16:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21618-02; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:16:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A25412816; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:16:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18FF12816 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:16:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21642-01 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:16:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.194]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4474D127FE for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:16:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a4so47330nfc for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:16:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=uEgw7RR+q9J73z/1GzbOPWtjA0bAexkoBp4KPezqUhOHEaTSBoDD7HU5zD3rRPwGeIteh8wQd9xADrSkiLFgjaGqw8h58Uhj0r3aN/GTdafA1SzPFaIBjsFs61Y3zOPFhc4zcQDXJntvnhW9QbAoL/fvw7i7aIWh/ksrWmz029k= Original-Received: by 10.48.3.10 with SMTP id 10mr68656nfc; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.48.247.2 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on smtp.ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:21538 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:21538 Hello, I already noticed that English quotations are much better kerned than the German (also Slovenian) ones, today I also came across two articles about this. http://www.harald-harders.de/latex/lm-kerning-092.pdf http://www.dante.de/dante/events/eurotex/papers/TUT09.pdf If I understood it properly, the problem should have been addressed and solved already. Is there already any ConTeXt support for it? German/Slovenian/... can use either guillemots or normal quotation marks, so if the user wants to use guillemots (which are not the default), a simple mechanism has to exist, where the kerning is updated automatically when switching. Mojca