From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/21969 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mojca Miklavec Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: ec encoding and tcaron] Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:05:13 +0200 Message-ID: <6faad9f00508171005374f92c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4301B300.8060202@wxs.nl> <6faad9f005081611414a199fdb@mail.gmail.com> <43023C35.3050803@wxs.nl> <6faad9f005081705454af7cb08@mail.gmail.com> <43033F61.6030302@wxs.nl> <6faad9f005081707293edc026b@mail.gmail.com> <4303553B.2070207@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1124298383 31194 80.91.229.2 (17 Aug 2005 17:06:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Aug 17 19:06:22 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E5RLs-0004gr-KA for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:05:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626F912784; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:05:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17983-02-3; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:05:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2749127CD; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:05:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1E0127DB for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:05:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17856-05-2 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:05:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.198]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E38127A0 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:05:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x4so62450nfb for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:05:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=koLZk9eCtz0y03FsFeYAXWW+JnWyy/0OzlAxCgJ5ru0gqLUGF+cb63sAUcidecb4fu37ID4A1ias82etN1iaEkowhMvKq5dRT7/QkjjE4HFpfpTu04w2GJnHpS2Ekdyqcslv0ZPyUnZ9S0gApDsmjEKUC3/E9G67NWAqe1gcmJI= Original-Received: by 10.49.2.14 with SMTP id e14mr38472nfi; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.48.247.2 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <4303553B.2070207@wxs.nl> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on smtp.ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:21969 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:21969 Hans Hagen wrote: > Mojca Miklavec wrote: >=20 > >Another remark. I'm not sure which name is better, dstroke > >(unicode-based) or dcroat (adobe-based). ConTeXt seems to have a > >strange mixture of unicode- and adobe- based names. "hungarumlaut" is > >adobe-based, while "diaeresis" is unicode-based for example. I don't > >want to introduce just another name, incompatible with any standards. > > take the one used in latin modern Hmmm ... which one? dbar or dcroat? ;) (/fonts/lm/doc/fonts/lm/0inf0983.txt tells that both of them are present) Well, I didn't mean that seriously, I know that dbar is there just because of compatibility with the "old" ec.enc files, but ... both in adobe glyph list and unicode the situation is just horrible. "stroke" in unicode is represented by 3 different names (croat, bar, slash): - dcroat - hbar - lslash - oslash - tbar Guess why dstroke/dcroat is named dbar in the ec encoding ...=20 And I forgot yet another possibility in my list of names for that single stupid letter that seems to be used nowhere except in Croatian and Vietnamese ... \dj. Plus the one which should be used as a "fallback" in Slovenian: \definecharacter dstroke {d\zcaron} Out of the seven possibilities I vote for \dstroke and leave the strange name (dcroat) to be handled by *.enc files only. Mojca