Issues: framedtext and tables inside itemized list

Issues: framedtext and tables inside itemized list

[Eugene Toporov]

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I have some issues with different things but both inside itemized lists:

1. Framed text width is calculated not as I expect. The sample below makes 
framedtext box appear partially on right margin

\setupcolors[state=start]
\setuplayout[width=9cm]
\showframe
\starttext
\startitemize[n,packed]
\item A normal item paragraph, which normaly gets wrapped ok.\par
\startframedtext[background=screen,frame=off,width=\textwidth]
Some listing as framedtext whose width seems calculated incorrectly.
\stopframedtext
\stopitemize 
\stoptext

In my docs I represent programlistings using these framedtexts and need them 
all to be the same width (\textwidth). Is there a way to make those 
framedtexts that appear inside itemization remain in boundaries? The same 
concerns tables (natural).

2. Another question with natural tables inside itemized list..If I set 
[split=repeat] or [split=yes] for table it is not correctly aligned inside 
itemized list. The below example shows this.

\setuplayout[width=9cm]
\showframe
\starttext
\startitemize[n,packed]
\noindent
\bTABLE
\bTR \bTH Operation\eTH \bTH[align=middle] Result\eTH \eTR 
\bTR \bTD The "Librarian" application starts with the {\tt{}Index} page.\eTD 
\bTD[align=middle] OK \eTD \eTR 
\bTR \bTD When clicking the links on the {\tt{}Index} page, the empty 
{\tt{}List\-All} and {\tt{}Add\-Book} pages open.\eTD \bTD[align=middle] OK 
\eTD \eTR 
\eTABLE
\noindent
\stopitemize 
\stoptext

I'm currently obliged to have non-splittable tables in lists. tIs there a 
way to make it render better?

Thank you in advance!
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Regards.
Eugene Toporov

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Re: Issues: framedtext and tables inside itemized list

[Eugene Toporov]

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Hi!

On 8/24/05, Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Eugene Toporov wrote:
> > I have some issues with different things but both inside itemized lists:
> >
> > 1. Framed text width is calculated not as I expect. The sample below 
> makes
> > framedtext box appear partially on right margin
> >


\textwidth is a constant that doesn't change when you enter a smaller box.
> Do you want to get rid of the space left of the box or do you want to
> have a frame, narrower than textwidth?


I want the narrower frame with the right edge always at the same place. 

a)
> \startitemize[n,packed]
> \item A normal item paragraph, which normaly gets wrapped ok.
> \stopitemize
> \startframedtext[background=screen,frame=off,width=\textwidth]
> Some listing as framedtext whose width seems calculated incorrectly.
> \stopframedtext
> \startitemize[n,packed,continue]
> \item something else
> \stopitemize


I did not know about the startitemize's continue option. May be useful 
someday. So, thanks! 

b) You can access \leftskip to get idea how much space is left on the
> left side, there is also a \hsize, but there must be some better solution.


Will try playing with this if no other solutions. 

Thanks for your suggestions.

Eugene

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Re: Issues: framedtext and tables inside itemized list

[Mojca Miklavec]

Eugene Toporov wrote:
>  1. Framed text width is calculated not as I expect. The sample below makes
> framedtext box appear partially on right margin
>  
>  \setupcolors[state=start]
>  \setuplayout[width=9cm]
>  \showframe
>  \starttext
>    \startitemize[n,packed]
>      \item A normal item paragraph, which normaly gets wrapped ok.\par
>       
> \startframedtext[background=screen,frame=off,width=\textwidth]
>          Some listing as framedtext whose width seems calculated
> incorrectly.
>        \stopframedtext
>    \stopitemize 
>  \stoptext

In LaTeX you have a \linewidth command (compare the difference with
\textwidth, which doesn't change):

\documentclass{article}
\begin{document}
linewidth: \the\linewidth, textwidth: \the\textwidth
\begin{itemize}
\item linewidth: \the\linewidth, textwidth: \the\textwidth
\end{itemize}
\end{document}

However, in ConTeXt the linewidth is reserved for "rule thickness" or
something similar. Which is the ConTeXt alternative to LaTeX's
\linewidth?

Mojca

Re: Issues: framedtext and tables inside itemized list

[Taco Hoekwater]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> 
> However, in ConTeXt the linewidth is reserved for "rule thickness" or
> something similar. Which is the ConTeXt alternative to LaTeX's
> \linewidth?

There is no such thing, I believe. There is \columnwidth when in
colums, but outside that I normally do something like

   \the\dimexpr \hsize-\leftskip-\rightskip\relax

Greetings, Taco

Re: Issues: framedtext and tables inside itemized list

[Eugene Toporov]

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Wow, that's really something! And it works!

Do you think such "thing" telling the real text width could be useful in 
ConTeXt?

A big thank you once again!

On 8/26/05, Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> >
> > However, in ConTeXt the linewidth is reserved for "rule thickness" or
> > something similar. Which is the ConTeXt alternative to LaTeX's
> > \linewidth?
> 
> There is no such thing, I believe. There is \columnwidth when in
> colums, but outside that I normally do something like
> 
> \the\dimexpr \hsize-\leftskip-\rightskip\relax
> 
> Greetings, Taco
> 


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Re: Issues: framedtext and tables inside itemized list

[Taco Hoekwater]

Eugene Toporov wrote:
> Wow, that's really something! And it works!
> 
> Do you think such "thing" telling the real text width could be useful in 
> ConTeXt?

Yes, I think so. Something like \localtextwidth maybe.

Taco

Re: Issues: framedtext and tables inside itemized list

[Mojca Miklavec]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> Yes, I think so. Something like \localtextwidth maybe.

I think this sounds OK.

Mojca

Re: Issues: framedtext and tables inside itemized list

[Hans Hagen Outside]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

>
>
>However, in ConTeXt the linewidth is reserved for "rule thickness" or
>something similar. Which is the ConTeXt alternative to LaTeX's
>\linewidth?
>  
>
\setlocalhsize \the\localhsize 

Hans 
 

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Re: Issues: framedtext and tables inside itemized list

[Hans Hagen]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

>Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Yes, I think so. Something like \localtextwidth maybe.
>>    
>>
there is already \setlocalhsize  and \localhsize 

Hans 

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Re: Issues: framedtext and tables inside itemized list

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> 
>> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>> Yes, I think so. Something like \localtextwidth maybe.
>>>   
> 
> there is already \setlocalhsize  and \localhsize

I actually knew (or rather: should have remembered) that. :-/

Taco

Re: Issues: framedtext and tables inside itemized list

[Eugene Toporov]

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Thanks, Hans!

To make it work I had to use your suggestion given in this lest earlier

\startlinecorrection 
\setlocalhsize \hsize\localhsize 
\startframedtext
...
\stopframedtext 
\stoplinecorrection

However, is there any chance to get an answer to my second question about 
splitting natural tables placed inside itemized list? it is in the original 
message for the thread. 
Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

On 8/29/05, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> 
> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> 
> >Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Yes, I think so. Something like \localtextwidth maybe.
> >>
> >>
> there is already \setlocalhsize and \localhsize
> 
> Hans
> 
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