Problem following "OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt" article

Problem following "OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt" article

[Gavin Sinclair]

Greetings (first post),

Adam Lindsay's recent article "OpenType installation basics for
ConTeXt" in The PracTeX Journal
(http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2005-2/lindsay) is very well written.
Unfortunately, I was unable to perform the first step.

As the article specified, I ran the command:

$ texfont --ma --in --ve=public --co=torunska --lcdf --pre --va=liga,kern

It started off OK, but failed to properly create the map file.
Selected output follows:

   extending map file :
E:/MiKTeX/local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/texnansi-LIGA-KERN-public-torunska.map

      font identifier : AntykwaTorunska-Bold -> text -> tfm
     processing files : otf -> tfm + enc
otftotfm: './AntykwaTorunska-Bold.otf': No such file or directory
no mapfile from otftotfm : texfont.map

      font identifier : AntykwaTorunska-BoldItalic -> text -> tfm
     processing files : otf -> tfm + enc
otftotfm: './AntykwaTorunska-BoldItalic.otf': No such file or directory
no mapfile from otftotfm : texfont.map

      [and so on for each .otf file]


So, otftotfm is claiming that the files don't exist, but they
absolutely 100% do.  Perhaps it's looking for them somewhere else?

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Regards,
Gavin

Re: Problem following "OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt" article

[Adam Lindsay]

Gavin Sinclair said this at Sat, 3 Sep 2005 15:42:36 +1000:

>Greetings (first post),

Hi Gavin,

Two things:
Are you running texfont from the directory that contains all the .otf files?

(This doesn't look like the problem here, but) Are you running the
latest ConTeXt? There was a bug in the OpenType support in TeXFont that
was fixed  in the distribution as of a couple months ago.

(sorry for the delay--I'm on the road)

adam

>
>Adam Lindsay's recent article "OpenType installation basics for
>ConTeXt" in The PracTeX Journal
>(http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2005-2/lindsay) is very well written.
>Unfortunately, I was unable to perform the first step.
>
>As the article specified, I ran the command:
>
>$ texfont --ma --in --ve=public --co=torunska --lcdf --pre --va=liga,kern
>
>It started off OK, but failed to properly create the map file.
>Selected output follows:
>
>   extending map file :
>E:/MiKTeX/local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/texnansi-LIGA-KERN-public-
>torunska.map
>
>      font identifier : AntykwaTorunska-Bold -> text -> tfm
>     processing files : otf -> tfm + enc
>otftotfm: './AntykwaTorunska-Bold.otf': No such file or directory
>no mapfile from otftotfm : texfont.map
>
>      font identifier : AntykwaTorunska-BoldItalic -> text -> tfm
>     processing files : otf -> tfm + enc
>otftotfm: './AntykwaTorunska-BoldItalic.otf': No such file or directory
>no mapfile from otftotfm : texfont.map
>
>      [and so on for each .otf file]
>
>
>So, otftotfm is claiming that the files don't exist, but they
>absolutely 100% do.  Perhaps it's looking for them somewhere else?
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
>Regards,
>Gavin
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Re: Problem following "OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt" article

[Gavin Sinclair]

On 9/7/05, Adam Lindsay <atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gavin,
> 
> Two things:
> Are you running texfont from the directory that contains all the .otf files?

Absolutely.  It's a temporary directory containing those files.  The
first part of the process went fine.
 
> (This doesn't look like the problem here, but) Are you running the
> latest ConTeXt? There was a bug in the OpenType support in TeXFont that
> was fixed  in the distribution as of a couple months ago.

I believe so.  I installed ConTeXt for the first time about 10 days
ago.  It was a MiKTeX package, so I'm relying on that being up to
date.

I recently downloaded the mswincontext.zip package and intend to dump
MiKTeX and use that instead.  Haven't proceeded yet, but will let you
know how it goes.

> (sorry for the delay--I'm on the road)

Thanks a lot for the reply!

Gavin

> >Adam Lindsay's recent article "OpenType installation basics for
> >ConTeXt" in The PracTeX Journal
> >(http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2005-2/lindsay) is very well written.
> >Unfortunately, I was unable to perform the first step.
> > [snip...]

Re: Problem following "OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt" article

[Taco Hoekwater]

Gavin Sinclair wrote:
> 
> I believe so.  I installed ConTeXt for the first time about 10 days
> ago.  It was a MiKTeX package, so I'm relying on that being up to
> date.

You can easily verify this by running texexec --version. The latest
version of context is 2005.08.31.

Cheers, Taco

Re: Problem following "OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt" article

[Mojca Miklavec]

Gavin Sinclair wrote:
> Adam Lindsay wrote:
> > (This doesn't look like the problem here, but) Are you running the
> > latest ConTeXt? There was a bug in the OpenType support in TeXFont that
> > was fixed  in the distribution as of a couple months ago.
> 
> I believe so.  I installed ConTeXt for the first time about 10 days
> ago.  It was a MiKTeX package, so I'm relying on that being up to
> date.

Don't rely on it. MikTeX has just updated ConTeXt (after two months).
Once during the last weekend and once on Monday (5.9.). However, the
format is from 27.7., 6 official releases ago. Minimal ConTeXt
distribution (or replacing some files in teTeX for example) is the
best way if you want to keep up-to-date. (MikTeX has some other
advantages however.)

A while ago it was much better, but now it seems that they are busy
with preparation of MikTeX 2.5.

Mojca

Re: Problem following "OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt" article

[Gavin Sinclair]

On 9/8/05, Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gavin Sinclair wrote:
> > Adam Lindsay wrote:
> > > (This doesn't look like the problem here, but) Are you running the
> > > latest ConTeXt? There was a bug in the OpenType support in TeXFont that
> > > was fixed  in the distribution as of a couple months ago.
> >
> > I believe so.  I installed ConTeXt for the first time about 10 days
> > ago.  It was a MiKTeX package, so I'm relying on that being up to
> > date.
> 
> Don't rely on it. MikTeX has just updated ConTeXt (after two months).
> Once during the last weekend and once on Monday (5.9.). However, the
> format is from 27.7., 6 official releases ago. Minimal ConTeXt
> distribution (or replacing some files in teTeX for example) is the
> best way if you want to keep up-to-date. (MikTeX has some other
> advantages however.)

Thanks for the tip.  texexec --version tells me 

               context : ver: 2005.06.27
               cont-en : ver: 2005.06.27  fmt: 2005.8.31  mes: english

which is pretty uncool.  I guess I'll give the mswincontext.zip a try.
 I've hesitated because I don't see any clear instructions anywhere
and the directory structure in that zip file is unusual for a Windows
distro.  Also don't want to ditch MiKTeX entirely because I'm
experimenting with LyX.  Sigh...

How about just installing ConTeXt myself on top of MiKTeX?  Should work, right?

Gavin

Re: Problem following "OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt" article

[Hans Hagen]

Gavin Sinclair wrote:

>On 9/8/05, Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Gavin Sinclair wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Adam Lindsay wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>(This doesn't look like the problem here, but) Are you running the
>>>>latest ConTeXt? There was a bug in the OpenType support in TeXFont that
>>>>was fixed  in the distribution as of a couple months ago.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>I believe so.  I installed ConTeXt for the first time about 10 days
>>>ago.  It was a MiKTeX package, so I'm relying on that being up to
>>>date.
>>>      
>>>
>>Don't rely on it. MikTeX has just updated ConTeXt (after two months).
>>Once during the last weekend and once on Monday (5.9.). However, the
>>format is from 27.7., 6 official releases ago. Minimal ConTeXt
>>distribution (or replacing some files in teTeX for example) is the
>>best way if you want to keep up-to-date. (MikTeX has some other
>>advantages however.)
>>    
>>
>
>Thanks for the tip.  texexec --version tells me 
>
>               context : ver: 2005.06.27
>               cont-en : ver: 2005.06.27  fmt: 2005.8.31  mes: english
>
>which is pretty uncool.  I guess I'll give the mswincontext.zip a try.
> I've hesitated because I don't see any clear instructions anywhere
>and the directory structure in that zip file is unusual for a Windows
>distro.  Also don't want to ditch MiKTeX entirely because I'm
>experimenting with LyX.  Sigh...
>
>How about just installing ConTeXt myself on top of MiKTeX?  Should work, right?
>  
>
just unzip the file in some safe place, running 'setuptex' (in a dos box) should give you an isolated tex environment; it's on my agenda to provide a miktex bintree as well, but only for testing since miktex has a rather good update mechanism (no reason to duplicate that -)

[my main reason for putting the minimals on the web is that they provide isolated environments, which is somethign i need for projects]; they also demonstrate what is needed for context 

Hans 

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Re: Problem following "OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt" article

[Gavin Sinclair]

On 9/8/05, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> > [...]  I guess I'll give the mswincontext.zip a try.
> > I've hesitated because I don't see any clear instructions anywhere
> >and the directory structure in that zip file is unusual for a Windows
> >distro.  Also don't want to ditch MiKTeX entirely because I'm
> >experimenting with LyX.  Sigh...
> >
> >How about just installing ConTeXt myself on top of MiKTeX?  Should work, right?
>
> just unzip the file in some safe place, running 'setuptex' (in a dos box) should give you an isolated tex environment; it's on my agenda to provide a miktex bintree as well, but only for testing since miktex has a rather good update mechanism (no reason to duplicate that -)
> 
> [my main reason for putting the minimals on the web is that they provide isolated environments, which is somethign i need for projects]; they also demonstrate what is needed for context

By "isolated tex environment" I presume you mean "an environment that
only runs in that dos box".  Is that right?

Does that isolated environment clash with another TeX installation
(i.e. MiKTeX in this case)?  I'm led to believe TeX installations are
very territorial: they can't tolerate other installations on the same
computer!

Thanks,
Gavin

Re: Problem following "OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt" article

[Hans Hagen]

Gavin Sinclair wrote:

>By "isolated tex environment" I presume you mean "an environment that
>only runs in that dos box".  Is that right?
>
>Does that isolated environment clash with another TeX installation
>(i.e. MiKTeX in this case)?  I'm led to believe TeX installations are
>very territorial: they can't tolerate other installations on the same
>computer!
>  
>
the minimal distributions are really isolated, this is what setuptex.bat does; one drawback of the regular distributions is that they assume that they are installed as only tex distribution; the minimals are set up in such a way that one can run many of them in parallel as well as support multiple platforms with binaries that are out of sync with each other (hence the texmf-mswin etc trees); actually, if we had a texmf-miktex binary tree we could run fptex and miktex in parallel (i have to pick up that thread)

Hans  



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Linux and Context on 64 bit

[luigi.scarso]

Hi, I need some help in installing
linux and context on a DellPowerEdge 1850 with IntelXEON (64 bit)
I see something on mailing list about linux64inst.tar.bz2
(a broken link http://tex.aanhet.net/temp/linux64inst.tar.bz2 
(7247788bytes) )

but it's unclear to me how to go on (well, it's friday....)

Thanks in advance
luigi

Re: Linux and Context on 64 bit

[Taco Hoekwater]

luigi.scarso wrote:
> Hi, I need some help in installing
> linux and context on a DellPowerEdge 1850 with IntelXEON (64 bit)
> I see something on mailing list about linux64inst.tar.bz2
> (a broken link http://tex.aanhet.net/temp/linux64inst.tar.bz2 
> (7247788bytes) )

Those executabless are now part of the minimal distribution:

   http://context.aanhet.net/context/install/linux64tex.zip

Taco

Re: Linux and Context on 64 bit

[luigi.scarso]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> Those executabless are now part of the minimal distribution:
>
>   http://context.aanhet.net/context/install/linux64tex.zip

downloaded (many thanks taco!!)
The last thing: what  linux distro (SUSE, Mandriva , RH, Fedora..) ?

Re: Linux and Context on 64 bit

[Taco Hoekwater]

luigi.scarso wrote:
> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
>> Those executabless are now part of the minimal distribution:
>>
>>   http://context.aanhet.net/context/install/linux64tex.zip
> 
> 
> downloaded (many thanks taco!!)
> The last thing: what  linux distro (SUSE, Mandriva , RH, Fedora..) ?

Executables are generated on Mandrake^H^H^H^Hiva 10.2. But I only
created the binaries for the TeXLive source, I have no experience
with the actual use of the linux64tex.zip file  (the x86_64 machine
is a network database server, not an application server so I don't
use it for TeX work anyway).

Good luck,
Taco

Re: Linux and Context on 64 bit

[Stuart Jansen]

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On Fri, 2005-09-09 at 18:41 +0200, luigi.scarso wrote:
> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
> > Those executabless are now part of the minimal distribution:
> >
> >   http://context.aanhet.net/context/install/linux64tex.zip
> 
> downloaded (many thanks taco!!)
> The last thing: what  linux distro (SUSE, Mandriva , RH, Fedora..) ?

They work perfectly for me on both Ubuntu and Fedora.

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Re: Linux and Context on 64 bit

[luigi.scarso]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

>
> Those executabless are now part of the minimal distribution:
>
>   http://context.aanhet.net/context/install/linux64tex.zip


$>uname -a
Linux stanley.log.net 2.6.11-6mdksmp #1 SMP Tue Mar 22 15:40:42 CET 2005 
i686 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz unknown GNU/Linux

$> ldd dvips
dvips: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for 
GNU/Linux 2.4.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped

$> chmod 700 dvips ; ./dvips
bash: ./dvips: cannot execute binary file

It seem that I need to compile from sources...

luigi

Re: Linux and Context on 64 bit

[Taco Hoekwater]

luigi.scarso wrote:
> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
>>
>> Those executabless are now part of the minimal distribution:
>>
>>   http://context.aanhet.net/context/install/linux64tex.zip
> 
> $>uname -a
> Linux stanley.log.net 2.6.11-6mdksmp #1 SMP Tue Mar 22 15:40:42 CET 2005 
> i686 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz unknown GNU/Linux

Wow, an actual Xeon, in the wild! :-)

The zip is for AMD's x86_64, I'm afraid.

Taco

Re: Linux and Context on 64 bit

[VnPenguin]

On 9/9/05, luigi.scarso <luigi.scarso@logosrl.it> wrote:
> Hi, I need some help in installing
> linux and context on a DellPowerEdge 1850 with IntelXEON (64 bit)
> I see something on mailing list about linux64inst.tar.bz2
> (a broken link http://tex.aanhet.net/temp/linux64inst.tar.bz2
> (7247788bytes) )
> 
> but it's unclear to me how to go on (well, it's friday....)
> 

I build/install and run teTeX 3.0 on RHEL 3 IA64 & SUSE 9.0 AMD64
without any problem.
And of course ConTeXt (standard with teTeX or updated for latest
release) works very well too.

FYI
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Re: Linux and Context on 64 bit

[luigi.scarso]

>I build/install and run teTeX 3.0 on RHEL 3 IA64 & SUSE 9.0 AMD64
>without any problem.
>And of course ConTeXt (standard with teTeX or updated for latest
>release) works very well too.
>
>FYI
>  
>
Thanks to all.
With a bit of lucky, I will able to setup my new baby this week.

luigi

Re: Problem following "OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt" article

[Mojca Miklavec]

Gavin Sinclair wrote:
> Greetings (first post),
> 
> Adam Lindsay's recent article "OpenType installation basics for
> ConTeXt" in The PracTeX Journal
> (http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2005-2/lindsay) is very well written.
> Unfortunately, I was unable to perform the first step.
> 
> As the article specified, I ran the command:
> 
> $ texfont --ma --in --ve=public --co=torunska --lcdf --pre --va=liga,kern
> 
> It started off OK, but failed to properly create the map file.

After playing a bit with TeXfont I figured out that it is pretty
hopeless to try to use TeXfont under windows (esp. under MikTeX) until
some code portions get fixed. You can replace single quotes by double
quotes in line 900 of TeXfont, but that won't lead you much further.
There are problems with slashes/backslashes as well (the developers
use linux & mac and probably nobody ever checked the functionality
under windows besides the fact that I had problems with otftotfm
alone).

In the mean time, it's perhaps possible to use linux to make font
metrics/map files and copy them to windows partition again or to
manually call the otftotfm program and make a map file by yourself.

Mojca

Re: Problem following "OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt" article

[Gavin Sinclair]

On 9/10/05, Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [snip good helpful info...]
>
> In the mean time, it's perhaps possible to use linux to make font
> metrics/map files and copy them to windows partition again or to
> manually call the otftotfm program and make a map file by yourself.

Or maybe start using teTeX under Cygwin...

Gavin

Re: Problem following "OpenType installation basics for ConTeXt" article

[Hans Hagen]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

>Gavin Sinclair wrote:
>  
>
>>Greetings (first post),
>>
>>Adam Lindsay's recent article "OpenType installation basics for
>>ConTeXt" in The PracTeX Journal
>>(http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2005-2/lindsay) is very well written.
>>Unfortunately, I was unable to perform the first step.
>>
>>As the article specified, I ran the command:
>>
>>$ texfont --ma --in --ve=public --co=torunska --lcdf --pre --va=liga,kern
>>
>>It started off OK, but failed to properly create the map file.
>>    
>>
>
>After playing a bit with TeXfont I figured out that it is pretty
>hopeless to try to use TeXfont under windows (esp. under MikTeX) until
>some code portions get fixed. You can replace single quotes by double
>quotes in line 900 of TeXfont, but that won't lead you much further.
>There are problems with slashes/backslashes as well (the developers
>use linux & mac and probably nobody ever checked the functionality
>under windows besides the fact that I had problems with otftotfm
>alone).
>
>  
>
the problem is limited to the otf part ... the rest works ok for me on 
windows

>In the mean time, it's perhaps possible to use linux to make font
>metrics/map files and copy them to windows partition again or to
>manually call the otftotfm program and make a map file by yourself.
>  
>
we can set up a font repository ... 

Hans 

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