From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/25923 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mojca Miklavec Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Dense encoding, part II Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:59:25 +0100 Message-ID: <6faad9f00602100759w3e217c7avcaa50222ebcb6e2e@mail.gmail.com> References: <6faad9f00601230737q5a3a248ala84953f04bbdede1@mail.gmail.com> <43D4FC81.4030106@wxs.nl> <43E640B7.7060007@comp.lancs.ac.uk> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1139624398 23331 80.91.229.6 (11 Feb 2006 02:19:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 02:19:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Adam Lindsay Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Feb 11 03:19:46 2006 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1F7agJ-0002Dw-00 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:59:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A674C1278F; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:59:34 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17492-06; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:59:30 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139A612780; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:59:30 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714BA12780 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:59:28 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18135-02-3 for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:59:27 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.195]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 11E4E1277B for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:59:26 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id e2so371318ugf for ; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 07:59:26 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.48.49.7 with SMTP id w7mr2902735nfw; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 07:59:25 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.48.202.15 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 07:59:25 -0800 (PST) Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <43E640B7.7060007@comp.lancs.ac.uk> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:25923 Archived-At: On 2/5/06, Adam Lindsay wrote: > Hans Hagen wrote: > > Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> The fact that all Polish fonts (lm, iwona, kurier, antt) now ship with > >> el-* files makes me wonder: is there time to do the next step and > >> finish the second encoding with symbols? > >> > >> > > indeed > > Oop. Sorry, I hadn't been watching that. > I've suggested texnansi as a starting point, at least within ConTeXt. > What symbols do people want that *aren't* within texnansi? 1. Would Caron & similar uppercase accents make sense? I doubt that many accents are needed in addition to what is already present in the other encoding anyway, but something like that could be used if there is no Ccaron present in the font for example: \definecharacter Ccaron {\buildtextaccent\textCaron C} instead of \definecharacter Ccaron {\buildtextaccent\textcaron C} In well-designed fonts (including all Polish fonts such as lm, antykwa, iwona, ...) the lowercase and the uppercase variant of the accent differ. (Try to write \Scaron\Ccaron in texnansi encoding for example to see the difference). Of course some care has to be taken, so that it will also work for fonts without those additional accents for uppercase characters (using \iffontchar perhaps?). 2. perhaps some currency symbols missing in texnansi I would suggest to add Euro, but with some special care of course. Perhaps some users still prefer to use the regular (geometrical) symbol rather than the one taken from I-forgot-which-font (the default behaviour when \texteuro is used). Any other currency on this list worth supporting? http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U20A0.pdf Perhaps dong, lira, Won ... 3. Perhaps a short glimpse into: http://source.contextgarden.net/ts1-lm.enc http://www.cstug.cz/aktivity/2005/lm-at11e.pdf http://www.janusz.nowacki.strefa.pl/pliki/AntykwaTorunska-doc-en-2_03.pdf if you notice anything worth supporting. "married" might be useful for geneaology, I guess that the leaf is there for the same purpose. No idea why anyone would want to use the musical note (ugly in lm and probably hardly present in any other font). 4. numero sign, ordfeminine, ordmasculine, copyleft ;), I don't know if anybody needs fractions, permyriad, ... one/two/...superior (present in some regimes) are pretty pointless in TeX where you can use \high{} I guess. Perhaps there should be two different glyphs for "tilde" and "asciitilde" (not sure about the last one.) Mojca