From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/30336 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Mojca Miklavec" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: A few questions (mostly about fonts) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:08:22 +0200 Message-ID: <6faad9f00608161308h7506f67bkb3cac7a651bac557@mail.gmail.com> References: <2e8813a0608161152h545cb0b6l1f61224337f0788f@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1155758921 17413 80.91.229.2 (16 Aug 2006 20:08:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:08:41 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Aug 16 22:08:39 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GDRgo-0004V7-5a for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:08:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83E51FD4E; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:08:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14178-01; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:08:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1CC1FCC6; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:08:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9821FCC6 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:08:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14047-03 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:08:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 3FE701FC83 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:08:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k26so844516nfc for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.49.43.2 with SMTP id v2mr1186735nfj; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.78.175.15 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" In-Reply-To: <2e8813a0608161152h545cb0b6l1f61224337f0788f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:30336 Archived-At: On 8/16/06, Jeff Smith wrote: > Hi! > > I'm fairly new to ConTeXt (which I greatly admire, by the way) and > after reading a couple of provided manuals, I have some lingering > questions. I thank anyone in advance for replying to any number of > them. > > The fonts manual mentions how TeX is often qualified as 'the font > mess'. Well, yeah, my head hurts right now... :-( Here are some > font-related issues that are very important to me: Some of the font mess might disappear when the new pdfTeX comes out (next year). If you're a font fan and if you're in a hurry, you might try XeTeX (it supports Unicode & OpenType fonts, which are much easier to use than if you want to install your own font into TeX tree and use it with standard pdfTeX), but when I last tried it, it didn't support inclusion of external figures on Windows. (I don't know if Hans has included it into the standalone Windows version already.) > a) Somehow I can't come up with small caps in a Times font. Is this > normal? This happens either by using \sc or \setupcapitals[sc=3Dyes] > along with \cap. Left for someone else to answer. > b) LaTeX has a package for the International Phonetic Alphabet called > tipa. Is it possible to use it in ConTeXt? If not, can anybody point > me to the relevant manuals that will help me incorporate official IPA > fonts (say, the TTF version) in my ConTeXt installation? I'm using the > stand-alone Windows distribution, btw. It's not there yet, but as far as I can remember someone (probably Taco?, I might be wrong) was willing to help incorporating it if one of the users would describe what exactly is neeeded and help testing it. (with XeTeX and a proper OpenType font you would probably get them out-of-the-box) > Two language related issues: > > c) There was a French language specific package in LaTeX that made > possible the direct use of accented characters in the source text > (like =E9, =E0, =F4) without using the explicit commands themselves. Can > this be achieved in ConTeXt (because right now their direct use simply > halts the compiling)? I would believe so, since the manual for French > documents by Peter M=FCnster shows how to set up automatic spacing > before the strong punctuation marks (! ? ; :) without explicit > commands every time. I'm guessing the strategy would be the same with > accented characters, but so far I haven't been able to make it work. > > d) Is it possible to build some sort of macro that would automatically > make \quotation marks different when inside another \quotation > command? Basically, we use =AB =BB (the French guillemets) as standard > quotation marks, but we use single quotes instead inside another > quotation. At this point, I'd only need a yes or no answer. It would > ease my mind to know there can be a way to streamline this usage of > quotation marks, thereby simplifying greatly the input text. The answer to both questions: \enableregime[utf-8] % or latin9/iso-8859-15 or cp1252 \mainlanguage[fr] See lang-ita.tex. I didn't understand which quotes exactly you want to have, but if you want the english ones for some reason: \setuplanguage[fr] [leftquote=3D\upperleftsinglesixquote, rightquote=3D\upperrightsingleninequote] Mojca