Re: unic-xxx.tex glyph lists: minor bugs, questions

["Mojca Miklavec" <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>]

On 11/5/06, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Philipp Reichmuth wrote:
> > I've been writing a script that sifts through the unic-xxx.tex files to
> > get a readable mapping what Unicode characters are supported using
> > \Amacron-style names.
> >
> mtxtools can create such lists using the unicode consotium glyph table,
> mojca's mapping list and enco/regi files
>
> we use mtxtools to create the tables needed for xetex (used for case
> mapping) and luatex (more extensive manipulations)

I have mtxtools.bat, but no mtxtools.rb here.

> > Are the
> > unic-xxx files automatically generated or maintained by hand?
> >
> maintained by hand, again, just send me the fixed file, but we need to
> make sure that the fix is ok (i.e. works as expected)

Although there should be no reason for not generating them
automatically. I did that for regime files (I only wrote a script,
executed it and Hans included the files, so it's only semi-automatic;
it would be polite from me if I managed to incorporate that into
existing [whateverthename]tools.rb).

> > Incidentally, it would be trivial now to put the list of ConTeXt glyphs
> > on the Wiki, if anyone's interested.
> >
> there is a file  contextnames.txt in the distributions (maintained by
> mojca), while the not yet distributed char-def.lua has the info for luatex

If you find errors there, please let me know. (Missing letter in
Cyrillic was due to missing position in Unicode).

> > I wanted to use this to work towards better support for the whole range
> > of ConTeXt glyphs with OpenType fonts under XeTeX, by reading what
> > ConTeXt glyphs are available in a font and building a list of
> > "\catcode`ā=\active \def ā {\amacron}"-style list for the rest.
> > (Unfortunately this kind of list would be font-specific, but the generic
> > alternative would be a huge list of active characters with an
> > \ifnum\XeTeXcharglyph"....>0 macro behind it, and that would probable be
> > quite slow.)  I wonder if there is a more intelligent way to achieve
> > this goal; since part of the logic for mapping code points into glyph
> > macros exists already, it would be easier if there was a way to reuse that.
> >
> best take a look at mtxtools; if needed we can generate the definitions
> ; concerning speed, it will not be that slow, because tex is quite fast
> on such tests (unless XeTeXcharglyph is slow due to lib access); the
> biggest thing is to make sure that things don't expand in unwanted ways.
>
> (i must find time to update my xetex bin ; i must admit that i never
> tried to use open type fonts in xetex (the mac is broken)

But OpenType fonts also work on Linux & Windows.

> > The best way out would be if I could enable ConTeXt's UTF-8 regime while
> > running XeTeX in \XeTeXinputencoding=bytes mode, but I haven't gotten
> > that to work yet.
> >
> maybe mojca has

You could theoretically comment out \beginXETEX \expandafter \endinput
\endXETEX in regi-utf.tex, but that's not the best idea.

Mojca