From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/31846 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Mojca Miklavec" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: combining multiple accents Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:42 +0100 Message-ID: <6faad9f00611140717r100d8926t1e096e739b10d53f@mail.gmail.com> References: <6faad9f00611092138k59cc3e10p337ea71a1d43e769@mail.gmail.com> <4559C1AF.1010803@wxs.nl> <4559D77A.4090409@elvenkind.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1163517497 18573 80.91.229.2 (14 Nov 2006 15:18:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Nov 14 16:18:14 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gk02z-0006Jn-2w for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:18:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D1E1FDF9; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:45 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28217-05; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:39 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CF71FE00; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:38 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A7E1FE02 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:38 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28108-05 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:35 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id F358C1FDF9 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:34 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so276486nfc for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 07:17:43 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.48.220.15 with SMTP id s15mr1277881nfg.1163517462430; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 07:17:42 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.48.209.2 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 07:17:42 -0800 (PST) Original-To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" In-Reply-To: <4559D77A.4090409@elvenkind.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:31846 Archived-At: On 11/14/06, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Hans Hagen wrote: > > Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > > >>Hello, > >> > >>I always thought that "any accent can be placed on any character" in TeX. > >> > >>However, probably due to some boxes, this fails to work sometimes. > >> > >>So how can I create "a with cedilla and ring above" for example: \r{\c a}? > >>(Yes, I know that I can switch the order: \c{\r a} works as expected, > >>but I need to create more complicated cases in general and I don't > >>want to depend on whether the accent will be placed properly or not.) > >>Is there any simple cure for that? > >> > >> > > > > taco may know the limitations of \accent > > \accent only applies to characters, not the endresult of built-up > stuff resulting from \bottomaccent (like \c ). There is no simple > solution to this problem (where the font does not contain the needed > character). Thanks a lot for the answer. OK, so that basically means then: - option A: use a suitable font from XeTeX and hope that one character will be available there to place the other accent on top of it - option B: create a bunch of definitions in the spirit of this one: http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2005/012609.html (so hard-coding all the needed accented letters) For some reason I thought that TeX was more flexible in that respect (I always believed in "put any accent over any character" philosophy), but I'll manage to add those couple of letters somehow. Thanks, Mojca