From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/36708 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Mojca Miklavec" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: waiting for mswincontext Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:18:45 +0200 Message-ID: <6faad9f00709200618h1077af37q4abb381040e98afb@mail.gmail.com> References: <1625208280.20070918233338@gmail.com> <46F0D3D8.7050305@wxs.nl> <20070919164032.193dbd41.schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> <46F13619.6030609@wxs.nl> <20070919192254.1e1fe351.schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> <46F163C6.1030703@wxs.nl> <6faad9f00709191131m3b4b075ak6581d7e3135b3012@mail.gmail.com> <46F17651.5080004@wxs.nl> <46F21A40.70204@elvenkind.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190294361 18691 80.91.229.12 (20 Sep 2007 13:19:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:19:21 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Sep 20 15:19:18 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IYLw5-0003H1-K0 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:19:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD09201B0; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:19:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25712-01-5; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:19:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7F420101; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:19:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47FB20101 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:19:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25712-01-4 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:18:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.232]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AFD200FE for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:18:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so461774wxd for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.142.225.11 with SMTP id x11mr271826wfg.1190294325145; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.142.87.14 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:18:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <46F21A40.70204@elvenkind.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:36708 Archived-At: On 9/20/07, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Hans Hagen wrote: > > Mojca Miklavec wrote: > >> On 9/19/07, Hans Hagen wrote: > >>> btw, > >>> > >>> pdftex --ini &plain \\pdfoutput=1 \dump > >>> > >>> can do the same for you, but as said .. if the minimals would have plain > >>> formats they would default to dvi anyway so it would be of no help to you > >> pdftex.fmt and mpost.mem would be perfectly fine. No need for > >> plain.fmt (I guess). (And maybe xetex.fmt as a sugar, although that > >> one might need some additional files.) > > > > pdftex --ini -fmt=pdftex plain.tex \\pdfoutput=1 \dump > > > > probably does that, but as said, everyone wants his/her own variant > > (patterns to start with -) > > There is no doubt that plain is useful. I always create the plain > Knuth format for luatex and pdftex by hand, and while it would be nice > to have it done automatically, it is not that much work, and all real > input files are there (.ini's are a commandline convenience). (In case of XeTeX, it's slightly more that a single line to be typed :) > If I understood correctly, plain xetex really needs something extra? > If that is so, than perhaps that file should be added. Mojca, what's > up with that? xetex.ini looks like that: \catcode`\{=1 \catcode`\}=2 \catcode`\#=6 \catcode`\^=7 \catcode`\@=11 \input unicode-letters \let\s@vef@nt=\font ... some stuff here \lowercase{\def\sk@pf@nt\preloaded=#1^^A{\endgroup}} \input etex.src % restore the \font command and undefine other stuff \catcode`\@=11 \let\font=\s@vef@nt ... some more stuff here \dump \endinput So one additionally needs: - (possibly modified) xetex.ini itself - unicode-letters.tex (could be replaced by enco-utf.tex, though I just figured out that there's more in unicode-letters than in enco-utf, but in that case enco-utf is that one which should be fixed) - etex.src (btw: why is that one only used in xetex, but not in pdfTeX?) - tex-text.tec (which was missing until now but needs to be added anyway) - hmmm ... no idea about what is needed for hyphenation (but I guess that patterns from ConTeXt could be used as well) I will test once I have the rest, but it would be really handy to have the three plain formats (pdfTeX, XeTeX and mpost available; plus luatex if needed). > On dev-context, I have already proposed the removal of a number of > binaries, so I can make that request :-) ;) 3-times hurray for Taco :) Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________