Some update woes on Linux

Some update woes on Linux

[Jeff Smith]

Hi all,

After searching the archives and reading the wikis, I'm still at loss
on this one. :(

I installed TexLive 2007 on Ubuntu Gutsy through the repository
package. All went well.

However, given that I have to use XeTeX and that the ConTeXt that was
installed with the package dates from May 2007, which is between
January and 08.29, to be sure everything was okay I updated ConTeXt.

I did it manually because ctxtools didn't work. A problem with the
paths. First red flag, but I went on manually.

I got the newest cont-tmf.zip and unzipped it in /usr/share/texmf and
regenerated the formats by doing:

texexec --make --all

To check I had the correct version, I ran, on the commandline, these two:

texexec --check

and:

ctxtools --contextversion

Both gave me 2007.09.28 16:52, which seems quite correct.

However, when I try to compile a document (with the --xtx option), I
get the following error:

ConTeXt  ver: 2007.04.17 12:51 MKII  fmt: 2007.11.5  int: english/english

language        : language en is active
system          : cont-new loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex

FatalError      : Your format does not match the base files!

FormatVersion   : 2007.04.17 12:51 MKII
FilesVersion    : 2007.09.28 16:52

Clearly, there is something I must do that I don't know about or that
I haven't found anywhere. Anyone can help? I figure it's simple -- and
with all those numerous update questions around, I'm still stumped.

Many thanks in advance for any help.
Cheers!
Jeff Smith
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Re: Some update woes on Linux

[Arthur Reutenauer]

> texexec --make --all

  texexec --xtx --make --all

  Otherwise you generate the formats for pdfTeX.

	Arthur
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Re: Some update woes on Linux

[Mojca Miklavec]

Hello,

Most things seem to be fine, you only forgot to run
    texexec --xtx --make --all
to make the XeTeX-specific format.

Mojca

On 11/6/07, Jeff Smith wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> After searching the archives and reading the wikis, I'm still at loss
> on this one. :(
>
> I installed TexLive 2007 on Ubuntu Gutsy through the repository
> package. All went well.
>
> However, given that I have to use XeTeX and that the ConTeXt that was
> installed with the package dates from May 2007, which is between
> January and 08.29, to be sure everything was okay I updated ConTeXt.
>
> I did it manually because ctxtools didn't work. A problem with the
> paths. First red flag, but I went on manually.
>
> I got the newest cont-tmf.zip and unzipped it in /usr/share/texmf and
> regenerated the formats by doing:
>
> texexec --make --all
>
> To check I had the correct version, I ran, on the commandline, these two:
>
> texexec --check
>
> and:
>
> ctxtools --contextversion
>
> Both gave me 2007.09.28 16:52, which seems quite correct.
>
> However, when I try to compile a document (with the --xtx option), I
> get the following error:
>
> ConTeXt  ver: 2007.04.17 12:51 MKII  fmt: 2007.11.5  int: english/english
>
> language        : language en is active
> system          : cont-new loaded
> (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
>
> FatalError      : Your format does not match the base files!
>
> FormatVersion   : 2007.04.17 12:51 MKII
> FilesVersion    : 2007.09.28 16:52
>
> Clearly, there is something I must do that I don't know about or that
> I haven't found anywhere. Anyone can help? I figure it's simple -- and
> with all those numerous update questions around, I'm still stumped.
>
> Many thanks in advance for any help.
> Cheers!
> Jeff Smith
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Re: Some update woes on Linux

[Jeff Smith]

On Nov 6, 2007 4:59 PM, Arthur Reutenauer
<arthur.reutenauer@normalesup.org> wrote:
> > texexec --make --all
>
>   texexec --xtx --make --all

While I could have sworn this simple blunder of mine was the correct
explanation for my problems, it turns out it's not. I still get the
same error!

Jeff
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Re: Some update woes on Linux

[Arthur Reutenauer]

> While I could have sworn this simple blunder of mine was the correct
> explanation for my problems, it turns out it's not. I still get the
> same error!

  What about --xetex then?
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Re: Some update woes on Linux

[Jeff Smith]

On Nov 6, 2007 5:07 PM, Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Most things seem to be fine, you only forgot to run
>     texexec --xtx --make --all
> to make the XeTeX-specific format.
>
> Mojca

Uhm, while I first reported it didn't work, it probably has, but my
installation behaves strangely and I really cannot understand why.
When I run texexec from the command line, it works -- to a point,
meaning that the error I reported does not occur (there is another one
though).

When I run texexec from inside my editor (Winefish), it still reports
the bad format files like I said earlier. I have no idea how that can
happen. Linux is really making me feel stupid (my switch from Windows
is relatively recent).

That being said, if we continue on with my running texexec from the
commandline, as I said above, something else happens.:

** WARNING ** This .map file looks like a dvips format fontmap file.
** WARNING ** -- Current input buffer is: lmbsy5
LMMathSymbols5-BoldItalic    "enclmmathsy ReEncodeFont"
<lm-mathsy.enc  <lmbsy5.pfb
** WARNING ** -- Reading fontmap file stopped at: file="lm-math.map", line=7.
** WARNING ** This .map file looks like a dvips format fontmap file.
** WARNING ** -- Current input buffer is: rm-lmb10 LMRoman10-Demi
"enclmrm ReEncodeFont" <lm-rm.enc <lmb10.pfb
** WARNING ** -- Reading fontmap file stopped at: file="lm-rm.map", line=7.

Also, it seems I can't access my system fonts. But I did run fc-cache
-f (-v). Is there something else to do? When I run fc-list, I do see
my system fonts that I should be able to use...

Thanks for all the help!
Jeff
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Re: Some update woes on Linux

[Mojca Miklavec]

On 11/7/07, Jeff Smith wrote:
> On Nov 6, 2007 5:07 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Most things seem to be fine, you only forgot to run
> >     texexec --xtx --make --all
> > to make the XeTeX-specific format.
> >
> > Mojca
>
> Uhm, while I first reported it didn't work, it probably has, but my
> installation behaves strangely and I really cannot understand why.
> When I run texexec from the command line, it works -- to a point,
> meaning that the error I reported does not occur (there is another one
> though).
>
> When I run texexec from inside my editor (Winefish), it still reports
> the bad format files like I said earlier. I have no idea how that can
> happen. Linux is really making me feel stupid (my switch from Windows
> is relatively recent).
>
> That being said, if we continue on with my running texexec from the
> commandline, as I said above, something else happens.:
>
> ** WARNING ** This .map file looks like a dvips format fontmap file.
> ** WARNING ** -- Current input buffer is: lmbsy5
> LMMathSymbols5-BoldItalic    "enclmmathsy ReEncodeFont"
> <lm-mathsy.enc  <lmbsy5.pfb
> ** WARNING ** -- Reading fontmap file stopped at: file="lm-math.map", line=7.
> ** WARNING ** This .map file looks like a dvips format fontmap file.
> ** WARNING ** -- Current input buffer is: rm-lmb10 LMRoman10-Demi
> "enclmrm ReEncodeFont" <lm-rm.enc <lmb10.pfb
> ** WARNING ** -- Reading fontmap file stopped at: file="lm-rm.map", line=7.
>
> Also, it seems I can't access my system fonts. But I did run fc-cache
> -f (-v). Is there something else to do? When I run fc-list, I do see
> my system fonts that I should be able to use...

That's a "well-known" error. (To be completely honest, I'm not sure if
those files are needed at all and when/why they're needed.)

You need these files:
    http://minimals.contextgarden.net/fonts/common/fonts/map/dvipdfm/
which can be also fetched with
    rsync -rvzctl
rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/fonts/common/fonts/map/dvipdfm .
You need to put them to [texmf]/fonts/map/dvipdfm and run mktexlsr.

I have no idea about the other error (different behaviour in shell &
in text editor). How did you install TeX? Do you have any TeX-related
environmental variables?

Mojca
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Re: Some update woes on Linux

[Martin Schröder]

2007/11/7, Jeff Smith <ascarel@gmail.com>:
> When I run texexec from inside my editor (Winefish), it still reports
> the bad format files like I said earlier. I have no idea how that can
> happen. Linux is really making me feel stupid (my switch from

You probably got new formats in ~/.texlive2007/texmf-var and have old
formats still under /var, and the editor only sees the formats under
/var. But this shouldn't happen. You restarted your editor? :-)
Check the output of "texconfig conf".

Best
   Martin
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Re: Some update woes on Linux

[Jeff Smith]

Hi again,

Sorry for the delay, I was taken with real life worries for a bit.

So, I realized I did have some leftovers from an earlier installation
attempt. I cleaned everything and reinstalled TeXLive from the CD,
from scratch. I will wait a bit before updating ConTeXt again, because
right now I just want to access my system fonts (I'm on Linux) with
XeTeX and I can't seem to manage to do that anymore. Everything else
works. Now I just can't remember what I did back on Ubuntu
Edgy/Feisty. When I run:

fc-list

I do see my fonts listed (after a fc-cache -f). What do I need more?

Thanks for all the help!
Jeff
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Re: Some update woes on Linux

[Taco Hoekwater]

Jeff Smith wrote:
> Hi again,
> 
> Sorry for the delay, I was taken with real life worries for a bit.
> 
> So, I realized I did have some leftovers from an earlier installation
> attempt. I cleaned everything and reinstalled TeXLive from the CD,
> from scratch. I will wait a bit before updating ConTeXt again, because
> right now I just want to access my system fonts (I'm on Linux) with
> XeTeX and I can't seem to manage to do that anymore. Everything else
> works. Now I just can't remember what I did back on Ubuntu
> Edgy/Feisty. When I run:
> 
> fc-list
> 
> I do see my fonts listed (after a fc-cache -f). What do I need more?

I guess you have to setup OSFONTDIR (in texmf.cnf).

Best wishes,
Taco


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Re: Some update woes on Linux

[Mojca Miklavec]

On 11/9/07, Jeff Smith wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> Sorry for the delay, I was taken with real life worries for a bit.
>
> So, I realized I did have some leftovers from an earlier installation
> attempt. I cleaned everything and reinstalled TeXLive from the CD,
> from scratch. I will wait a bit before updating ConTeXt again, because
> right now I just want to access my system fonts (I'm on Linux) with
> XeTeX and I can't seem to manage to do that anymore. Everything else
> works. Now I just can't remember what I did back on Ubuntu
> Edgy/Feisty. When I run:
>
> fc-list
>
> I do see my fonts listed (after a fc-cache -f). What do I need more?

You can either use

\definetypeface[MyFace][rm][Xserif][Font Name]
\setupbodyfont[MyFace,12pt]

or prepare some more complex typescript examples. Note that if you
want to use automatic mapping from --/--- to endash/emdashes, syntax
has changed a bit since January until now.

Can you send examples that don't work any more (I could imagine that
you were using the new syntax (file: or name: prefix) which wasn't
available ack in January).

Mojca
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Re: Some update woes on Linux

[John Culleton]

On Saturday 10 November 2007 06:07:39 am Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On 11/9/07, Jeff Smith wrote:
> > Hi again,
>>When I run:
> >
> > fc-list
> >
> > I do see my fonts listed (after a fc-cache -f). What do I need more?
>
> You can either use
>
> \definetypeface[MyFace][rm][Xserif][Font Name]
> \setupbodyfont[MyFace,12pt]
>

Ah, interesting.  And what exactly is the content of Font Name?  for example 
if fc-list displays:
Bitstream Charter:style=Regular

does that whole string go into the space for "Font Name"?

Here is a more complex example:
DejaVu Sans,DejaVu Sans Condensed:style=Condensed Bold Oblique,Bold Oblique

I assume, perhaps wrongly, that this is in lieu of creating a typescript.

The whole subject raises interesting possibilities for straying off the 
traditional TeX reservation as far as font selection is concerned. 

I use the TeXLive distro, but with pdftex updated to 
pdfTeX 3.141592-1.40.5-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.6)


-- 
John Culleton
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Re: Some update woes on Linux

[Mojca Miklavec]

On 11/10/07, John Culleton wrote:
> On Saturday 10 November 2007 06:07:39 am Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> > On 11/9/07, Jeff Smith wrote:
> > > Hi again,
> >>When I run:
> > >
> > > fc-list
> > >
> > > I do see my fonts listed (after a fc-cache -f). What do I need more?
> >
> > You can either use
> >
> > \definetypeface[MyFace][rm][Xserif][Font Name]
> > \setupbodyfont[MyFace,12pt]
> >
>
> Ah, interesting.  And what exactly is the content of Font Name?  for example
> if fc-list displays:
> Bitstream Charter:style=Regular
>
> does that whole string go into the space for "Font Name"?

Unless it's broken this should work:
    \definetypeface[MyFace][rm][Xserif][Bitstream Charter]

> Here is a more complex example:
> DejaVu Sans,DejaVu Sans Condensed:style=Condensed Bold Oblique,Bold Oblique
>
> I assume, perhaps wrongly, that this is in lieu of creating a typescript.

I don't know how it works in that case, I should test. Xserif uses
"/B", "/I" and "/BI" to get \bf, \it and \bi working. I have no idea
how XeTeX handles "condensed bold oblique", but I would guess that you
can provide
    \definetypeface[MyFace][rm][Xserif][DejaVu Sans Condensed]

> The whole subject raises interesting possibilities for straying off the
> traditional TeX reservation as far as font selection is concerned.
>
> I use the TeXLive distro, but with pdftex updated to
> pdfTeX 3.141592-1.40.5-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.6)

But you need XeTeX for that.

Mojca
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Re: Some update woes on Linux

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 09:24:32 -0500
John Culleton <john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:

> On Saturday 10 November 2007 06:07:39 am Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> > On 11/9/07, Jeff Smith wrote:
> > > Hi again,
> >>When I run:
> > >
> > > fc-list
> > >
> > > I do see my fonts listed (after a fc-cache -f). What do I need more?
> >
> > You can either use
> >
> > \definetypeface[MyFace][rm][Xserif][Font Name]
> > \setupbodyfont[MyFace,12pt]
> >
> 
> Ah, interesting.  And what exactly is the content of Font Name?  for example 
> if fc-list displays:
> Bitstream Charter:style=Regular

The font name is "Bitstream Charter", the style entry is only needed
for italic or bold style and you can write "Bitstream Charter/I" for
italic or "Bitstream Charter/B" for the bold style.

> does that whole string go into the space for "Font Name"?
> 
> Here is a more complex example:
> DejaVu Sans,DejaVu Sans Condensed:style=Condensed Bold Oblique,Bold Oblique

I would say you can write "DejaVu Sans" for the normal version and
"DejaVu Sans Condensed" for the narrow version.

Choosing the bold and italic styles should be possible with the feature
tags in ConTeXt but I never tried the new font setups for XeTeX in
ConTeXt.

> I assume, perhaps wrongly, that this is in lieu of creating a typescript.
> 
> The whole subject raises interesting possibilities for straying off the 
> traditional TeX reservation as far as font selection is concerned. 
> 
> I use the TeXLive distro, but with pdftex updated to 
> pdfTeX 3.141592-1.40.5-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.6)

Wolfgang
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Re: Some update woes on Linux

[Jeff Smith]

On Nov 10, 2007 6:07 AM, Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> You can either use
>
> \definetypeface[MyFace][rm][Xserif][Font Name]
> \setupbodyfont[MyFace,12pt]
>
> or prepare some more complex typescript examples. Note that if you
> want to use automatic mapping from --/--- to endash/emdashes, syntax
> has changed a bit since January until now.
>
> Can you send examples that don't work any more (I could imagine that
> you were using the new syntax (file: or name: prefix) which wasn't
> available ack in January).

Wow. I'm the worst ConTeXt user ever. I've asked for help several
times now it's mostly been because I was too careless. In this case,
my document had no \setupbodyfont. I've always used the Xserif way.
*reddens in shame* :-(

That being said, I'm interested to know more about the new sytax. Is
it documented anywhere?

Thanks, and sorry!
Jeff
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Re: Some update woes on Linux

[Mojca Miklavec]

On 11/10/07, Jeff Smith wrote:
> On Nov 10, 2007 6:07 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> > You can either use
> >
> > \definetypeface[MyFace][rm][Xserif][Font Name]
> > \setupbodyfont[MyFace,12pt]
> >
> > or prepare some more complex typescript examples. Note that if you
> > want to use automatic mapping from --/--- to endash/emdashes, syntax
> > has changed a bit since January until now.
> >
> > Can you send examples that don't work any more (I could imagine that
> > you were using the new syntax (file: or name: prefix) which wasn't
> > available ack in January).
>
> Wow. I'm the worst ConTeXt user ever. I've asked for help several
> times now it's mostly been because I was too careless. In this case,
> my document had no \setupbodyfont. I've always used the Xserif way.
> *reddens in shame* :-(
>
> That being said, I'm interested to know more about the new sytax. Is
> it documented anywhere?

Of course not :)

You can say (features=default is optional)
    \definefontsynonym[SomeFont][name:Font Name][features=default]
which means that XeTeX will call the font
    \font\somefont="FontName;mapping=tex-text,..." (tex-text is
implied by features=default)

Back in January and before one achived the same by saying
    \definefontsynonym[SomeFont]['Font Name;mapping=tex-text'][encoding=uc]
Now encoding=uc is not needed any more since it's implied when one
runs XeTeX or LuaTeX. To be honest, it's not completely clear to me
what should happen with type-xtx typescripts (how to remove uc
encoding from there).

The other possibility is to say
    \definefontsynonym[SomeFont][file:lmroman12-regular][features=default]
which means that XeTeX will load the font "lmroman12-regular.otf" from
texmf tree, the equivalent in plain XeTeX being
    \font\somefont="[lmroman12-regular];mapping=tex-text,..."

When there is neither file: nor name: prefix
(\definefontsynonym[SomeFont][lmr12]), it means that XeTeX will try to
load a font in this order
- lmr12 (good old tfm fonts)
- "lmr12"
- "[lmr12]"
(the order might change)

Mojca
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Re: Some update woes on Linux

[Arthur Reutenauer]

> When there is neither file: nor name: prefix
> (\definefontsynonym[SomeFont][lmr12]), it means that XeTeX will try to
> load a font in this order
> - lmr12 (good old tfm fonts)
> - "lmr12"
> - "[lmr12]"

  The last two items meaning, respectively:

  • "lmr12" Try and load the *font name* lmr12 as an installed font
    (first string in the output of fc-list, Display Name in Apple
    Fontbook, etc.)—This is the recommended option in XeteX, by the way
  • "[lmr12]" Try and load the *file name* lmr12 from the texmf tree (as
    looked up by the kpathsea library)
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Re: Some update woes on Linux

[Jeff Smith]

On Nov 10, 2007 9:23 PM, Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> Of course not :)
>
> You can say (features=default is optional)
>     \definefontsynonym[SomeFont][name:Font Name][features=default]
> which means that XeTeX will call the font
>     \font\somefont="FontName;mapping=tex-text,..." (tex-text is
> implied by features=default)
>
> Back in January and before one achived the same by saying
>     \definefontsynonym[SomeFont]['Font Name;mapping=tex-text'][encoding=uc]
> Now encoding=uc is not needed any more since it's implied when one
> runs XeTeX or LuaTeX. To be honest, it's not completely clear to me
> what should happen with type-xtx typescripts (how to remove uc
> encoding from there).
>
> The other possibility is to say
>     \definefontsynonym[SomeFont][file:lmroman12-regular][features=default]
> which means that XeTeX will load the font "lmroman12-regular.otf" from
> texmf tree, the equivalent in plain XeTeX being
>     \font\somefont="[lmroman12-regular];mapping=tex-text,..."
>
> When there is neither file: nor name: prefix
> (\definefontsynonym[SomeFont][lmr12]), it means that XeTeX will try to
> load a font in this order
> - lmr12 (good old tfm fonts)
> - "lmr12"
> - "[lmr12]"
> (the order might change)

Hmmm.. must I use \setupbodyfont as well when using the
\definefontsynonym method? Because those alternative methods don't
work.
This works:

\definetypeface[corps][rm][Xserif][Garamond Premier Pro]
\setupbodyfont[corps,12pt]

But not this:

\definefontsynonym[corps][name:Garamond Premier Pro][features=default]
 or
\definefontsynonym[corps][file:GaramondPremrPro.][features=default]
 or
\definefontsynonym[corps][Garamond Premier Pro][features=default]

I see the default Times font instead (it compiles ok).

Jeff
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Re: Some update woes on Linux

[Mojca Miklavec]

On 11/13/07, Jeff Smith wrote:
> On Nov 10, 2007 9:23 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> > Of course not :)
> >
> > You can say (features=default is optional)
> >     \definefontsynonym[SomeFont][name:Font Name][features=default]
> > which means that XeTeX will call the font
> >     \font\somefont="FontName;mapping=tex-text,..." (tex-text is
> > implied by features=default)
> >
> > Back in January and before one achived the same by saying
> >     \definefontsynonym[SomeFont]['Font Name;mapping=tex-text'][encoding=uc]
> > Now encoding=uc is not needed any more since it's implied when one
> > runs XeTeX or LuaTeX. To be honest, it's not completely clear to me
> > what should happen with type-xtx typescripts (how to remove uc
> > encoding from there).
> >
> > The other possibility is to say
> >     \definefontsynonym[SomeFont][file:lmroman12-regular][features=default]
> > which means that XeTeX will load the font "lmroman12-regular.otf" from
> > texmf tree, the equivalent in plain XeTeX being
> >     \font\somefont="[lmroman12-regular];mapping=tex-text,..."
> >
> > When there is neither file: nor name: prefix
> > (\definefontsynonym[SomeFont][lmr12]), it means that XeTeX will try to
> > load a font in this order
> > - lmr12 (good old tfm fonts)
> > - "lmr12"
> > - "[lmr12]"
> > (the order might change)
>
> Hmmm.. must I use \setupbodyfont as well when using the
> \definefontsynonym method? Because those alternative methods don't
> work.
> This works:
>
> \definetypeface[corps][rm][Xserif][Garamond Premier Pro]
> \setupbodyfont[corps,12pt]

Oh, sorry. I should explan a bit more in detail. When you're using
Xsans, you're actually using approxximately the following shortcuts
(see type-xtx.tex; although what I'm sending here are the new/fixed
definitions, they should work the same way):

\starttypescript[Xserif][all][name]
\definefontsynonym[Dummy]          [name:\typescripttwo]   [features=default]
\definefontsynonym[DummyItalic]    [name:\typescripttwo/I] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym[DummyBold]      [name:\typescripttwo/B] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym[DummyBoldItalic][name:\typescripttwo/BI][features=default]
\definefontsynonym[DummyCaps]      [name:\typescripttwo]   [features=smallcaps]
...
\definefontsynonym[Serif]           [Dummy]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBold]       [DummyBold]
\definefontsynonym[SerifItalic]     [DummyItalic]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic] [DummyBoldItalic]
\definefontsynonym[SerifCaps]       [DummyCaps]
\stoptypescript

Xserif defines the whole family, so switches like \bf, \bi, ... etc
will work properly.

> But not this:
>
> \definefontsynonym[corps][name:Garamond Premier Pro][features=default]
>  or
> \definefontsynonym[corps][file:GaramondPremrPro.][features=default]
>  or
> \definefontsynonym[corps][Garamond Premier Pro][features=default]

That only defines a font, but doesn't switch to it. You could:
1.) use \definedfont[corps], but things like \bf for example won't work
2.) use \definefontsynonym[Serif][file:GaramondPremrPro][features=default]
3.) create a proper typescript, here's an example from type-xtx, which
you can adapt for your needs:

\starttypescript[serif][timesnewroman]
\definefontsynonym[MSTimes]          [name:Times New Roman]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym[MSTimesItalic]    [name:Times New Roman Italic]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym[MSTimesBold]      [name:Times New Roman Bold]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym[MSTimesBoldItalic][name:Times New Roman Bold
Italic][features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[serif][timesnewroman][name]
\definefontsynonym[Serif]           [MSTimes]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBold]       [MSTimesBold]
\definefontsynonym[SerifItalic]     [MSTimesItalic]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic] [MSTimesBoldItalic]
\definefontsynonym[SerifSlanted]    [MSTimesItalic]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBoldSlanted][MSTimesBoldItalic]
\definefontsynonym[SerifCaps]       [MSTimes]
\stoptypescript

\definetypeface[mytimes][rm][serif][timesnewroman]
\setupbodyfont[mytimes,12pt]

Mojca
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