From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/37840 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Mojca Miklavec" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: TeX ligatures in XeTeX/LuaTeX: ``who needs them''? Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:04:36 +0100 Message-ID: <6faad9f00712081404h160264b4h1802480d1140f32a@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1197151553 24023 80.91.229.12 (8 Dec 2007 22:05:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 22:05:53 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Dec 08 23:05:59 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J17nv-0000KO-D5 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:05:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF711FA93; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:05:12 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26228-01; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:05:06 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BE61FB0A; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:05:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4311FB0A for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:04:52 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24759-02 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:04:40 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.177]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7ED1FA93 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:04:37 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m16so2908582waf for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 14:04:36 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.142.102.5 with SMTP id z5mr2594944wfb.1197151476543; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 14:04:36 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.143.40.7 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 14:04:36 -0800 (PST) Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:37840 Archived-At: Hello, just wondering: how many ConTeXt-ers depend on ligatures such as: '' (double quote) and '' (two single quotes) -> right double quote `` -> left double quote ,, -> DOUBLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK or even more weird ones: !` -> inverted exclam ?` -> inverted question << -> LEFT POINTING GUILLEMET (never heard of that ligature) >> -> RIGHT POINTING GUILLEMET Some ligatures are handy indeed: -- -> endash --- -> emdash ' -> right single quote (I'm, isn't etc.) I'm posting that question to get some feedback about which ones are expected to work/are fundamental for XeTeX & LuaTeX, so that others might be dropped from default additional font features (for third-party fonts). (I'm thinking about replacing tex-text in XeTeX with something: - more minimalistic - compatible with mkiv. Of course, users are still free to provide "tex-text" mapping explicitely as it's probably going to hang aound forever, together with XeTeX itself.) Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________