From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/37860 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Mojca Miklavec" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: TeX ligatures in XeTeX/LuaTeX: ``who needs them''? Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 19:48:29 +0100 Message-ID: <6faad9f00712091048y578ddf47g7cd36cc2f6bdc8a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <6faad9f00712081404h160264b4h1802480d1140f32a@mail.gmail.com> <8C808585-FD3F-4E36-BB4B-5B46CED0075A@boede.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1197273043 9800 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2007 07:50:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:50:43 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Dec 10 08:50:53 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J1dPf-0008Uk-Mz for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:50:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885911FA67; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:42:23 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07362-04-2; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:41:27 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993E51FADB; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:41:27 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4C11FA67 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:41:26 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07362-04 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:41:10 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.191]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B221FB8E for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:40:45 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k15so1214948rvb for ; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 12:40:16 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.142.11.2 with SMTP id 2mr2711547wfk.1197226109298; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 10:48:29 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.143.40.7 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 10:48:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8C808585-FD3F-4E36-BB4B-5B46CED0075A@boede.nl> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:37860 Archived-At: On Dec 9, 2007 5:07 PM, Willi Egger wrote: > > or even more weird ones: > > !` -> inverted exclam > > ?` -> inverted question > > For Spanish this is definitevely necessary. Again if coded in UTF > there is no problem. Do Spansh users still key them in like that (apart from old TeX-ies who have never heard abot anything beyond \v, \", \')? I mean: would anyone miss those two ligatures? (I assume that people need to use inverted quotation marks in Word as well ...) Ono problem is that that's a "well known" TeX behaviour though (documented in beginner's manual as well). > > Some ligatures are handy indeed: > > -- -> endash > > --- -> emdash > > ' -> right single quote (I'm, isn't etc.) > > Sure this is important, I suggest to add the horizontal ellipsis \dots? But what if one decides to use, say, 10 dots in a row? That might lead to weird effects (non-evenly spaced dots). -- and --- have been well established, so one would be careful enough before writing "----------". And there's \dots, so that one could have been mapped to ellipsis if needed. Thanks, Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________