From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/39427 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Mojca Miklavec" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: XeTeX: faked bold & slanted + request for ppc users Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:50:22 +0100 Message-ID: <6faad9f00803100650q575f6c3dx18f731c129463cf9@mail.gmail.com> References: <6faad9f00803090828v6fb74397xd52f5de52f9da3c4@mail.gmail.com> <47D439D7.3050202@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205158888 10718 80.91.229.12 (10 Mar 2008 14:21:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Jonathan Kew To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Mar 10 15:21:55 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JYisj-0004sV-26 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:21:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFFC01FCF5; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:21:02 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18026-05-8; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:20:28 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199331FC78; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:20:28 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F171FC21 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:20:26 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17174-05-8 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:19:55 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.233]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85161FCA1 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:19:38 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 50so875712wri.2 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.114.106.1 with SMTP id e1mr3512756wac.71.1205157022719; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.114.94.20 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:50:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <47D439D7.3050202@wxs.nl> Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:39427 Archived-At: On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I just wanted to let you know that XeTeX now supports both faking bold > > and slanted (and the binaries on the garden minimals have that feature > > already). It's generally a bad idea to use it, but in case that you > > need it only for small portions of text (if you really have no other > > way out), it could be handy. (Slanted is less evil to use than > > "bold".) > > > The plain syntax is: > > > > \font\a="Gentium" > > \font\b="Gentium:slant=0.2" % better: \font\b="Gentium/I" > > \font\c="Gentium:embolden=2" > > \font\d="Gentium:embolden=2;slant=0.2" > > hm, so it's embolden? in that case we need a remap to extend If I understand your question, extending the kerning for line thickness is missing, yes (but maybe not desired in monospace fonts or in Chinese, which is where the feature request came from, but in most cases extended should be applied indeed). I wanted to ask that, but I'm not sure about what is the most right thing to do. > > Some time ago I have posted an example of the (current?) ConTeXt way to use it: > > > > \definefontfeature > > [slantedandextended] > > % cloned from the rest of XeTeX, not really needed > > [method=node,script=latn,language=dflt,liga=yes,onum=yes,kern=yes, > > slant=0.25,extend=1.5] > > i remember that taco and i discussed it with regards to luatex (i think > that we even had a key in the tfm table at some point); i need to look > into it I'm only guessing, but I also have a feeling that ConTeXt could already support that feature per-se (with minor modifications). Doesn't "outline fonts" in ConTeXt use exactly the same kind of trickery as this "embolden" in XeTeX? (Only that outline only draws outlines, while embolden draws the inner part (normal glyphs) + outline.) 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