From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/40910 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Mojca Miklavec" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: ConTeXt on MikTeX broken Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 16:57:01 +0200 Message-ID: <6faad9f00805060757h1eb05487j2436bc7d6481bf54@mail.gmail.com> References: <6faad9f00805030300t25487699h3d3617a2cde73edf@mail.gmail.com> <22af238a0805060729qd09b71et8ad47d75537d3144@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1210085925 6632 80.91.229.12 (6 May 2008 14:58:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 14:58:45 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue May 06 16:59:19 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JtOdR-0006fE-NU for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 May 2008 16:59:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783801FB7E; Tue, 6 May 2008 16:58:31 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29489-02; Tue, 6 May 2008 16:57:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FEE1FB72; Tue, 6 May 2008 16:57:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598E61FB72 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 16:57:44 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28832-02 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 16:57:10 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com (yw-out-1718.google.com [74.125.46.152]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8741FB71 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 16:57:09 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so6597857ywm.74 for ; Tue, 06 May 2008 07:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.150.84.10 with SMTP id h10mr760512ybb.203.1210085821483; Tue, 06 May 2008 07:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.150.134.2 with HTTP; Tue, 6 May 2008 07:57:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <22af238a0805060729qd09b71et8ad47d75537d3144@mail.gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:40910 Archived-At: On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:29 PM, George N. White III wrote: > On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Mojca Miklavec > wrote: > > > some time ago some MikTeX users have complained that ConTeXt doesn't > > work on MikTeX. It seems to be a problem with MikTeX itself since this > > workaround seems to solve the problem, at least temporary: > > ruby "C:\Program Files\MiKTeX > > 2.7\scripts\context\ruby\texmfstart.rb" texexec > > I'm not so quick to blame MiKTeX -- I suspect texmfstart.rb would need > to provide some path searching tailored to MiKTeX. It seems to rely > on $0 with a tetex/texlive directory structure where SELFAUTOPARENT > can be used. Christian has indeed replied that he uses the binary version of texmfstart from CTAN (which is a bit older that the one on PRAGMA). But I still don't understand what can go wrong "in the middle of nothing", without any major changes. So there is either a problem in MikTeX or in ConTeXt. > The only criticism of MiKTeX is that it is silly to distribute > a broken package, but then it is up to ConTeXt users to report breakage > and, ideally, supply fixes. I completely agree. Except that I have no MikTeX any more. And I don't have the slightest idea what could have caused the problem. I don't see any serious changes in the texmfstart code that could break the 3-week-old version, while it has worked OK before. Mea culpa. I should have forced Hans to fix it during BachoTeX ... :) I will try to misuse some windows computer next week to see if I can find any bugs (but it's difficult to test since one cannot simply modify the ruby script as on other platforms). > > (But apparently there are not many MikTeX users on the list anyway. > > Else more would have complained.) > > Don't complain, just switch to a platform/distro where ConTeXt works > and use mpm (since few others provide updates with the speed and > convenience of MiKTeX). > > I think MiKTeX should remain focusing on the packages and binaries, > and rely on upstream to fix broken packages. I agree. But I have thought that some change in MikTeX might have occurred in the meantime. 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