Re: Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope)

["Mojca Miklavec" <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>]

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Alan Stone wrote:
> Hi Wolfgang,
>
> Hmmm... There's Mac too.
>
> However, I don't give up so quickly.  :O)
>
> I find Linux rather cool. At the same time
> finding Windows' desktop/window manager
> more and more boring, considering the
> personalisation capabilities of GNU/Linux'
> desktops, etc...
>
> Hence, for the time being, I'll keep on truckin'.
> Stimulates my grey cells.
>
> So I'd really like this issue figured out.
>
> Any clues ?

ctxtools --updatecontext has been written before minimals were
existing. And since there is (or was) no reliable source to take the
binaries from, it didn't ever update any binaries.

All it does is:
- download the zip
- unzip it
- make the formats

If you are lucky, it puts the files where you want them to be, but
since every installation works its own way, it's hard to predict where
to put them; on MikTeX it behaved a bit bad. And with gwTeX that
provides incremental updates, the updates by ConTeXt and updates by
gwTeX didn't really like each other (I mean - updates by gwTeX were
shielded by the version you downloaded with ctxtools).

Also, a similar problem existed with format generation which fly to
the proper place if you are lucky. If you are not, then format fly to
some weird place, but in general it worked.

you can theoretically use mtxrun --script update --update --make
--force, but I fear that it will only work with the minimals since
many things are hardcoded (and not worked out perfectly yet).

> (1) >You cannot update the binaries that way (you are not supposed to :).
>
> Why can't the binaries be updated that way (why aren't we supposed to) ?

Of course you can. But if you happen to update TL package, your
additions will be destroyed. And you need to rebuild all the other
formats. It's not so harmful.

Supposed to relates to "your system would be supposed to update its
own packages", but for ConTeXt it obviously doesn't do.

> (2) >On your own risk, you may update the binaries from minimals
>>   rsync -av \
>>   rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/bin/xetex/linux/bin/ \
>>   /path/to/bin/with/xetex
>
> Why on your own risk ?

If you destroy (overwrite) the old binary :) - if you dowload the
wrong binary, then you have neither working. Generally, it should work
OK.

Mojca
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