From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/41791 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Mojca Miklavec" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Geeze, I might try Linux after all... (not too off-tpic I hope) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:31:07 +0200 Message-ID: <6faad9f00806200731t6d1d7fd3mf3ff2d1e7995f7f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <326847810806130328k73f9ed0bw4ec3ede296a29d55@mail.gmail.com> <326847810806140029x446fd539w8e54fefea57de4f0@mail.gmail.com> <4853760A.20109@elvenkind.com> <200806140725.12219.john@wexfordpress.com> <326847810806191240y180c1e90tc92a8039a85ca804@mail.gmail.com> <6faad9f00806200003s57f528aahf6729ee562297a11@mail.gmail.com> <326847810806200117y3a98e1ddlb6594b5c088ce83d@mail.gmail.com> <326847810806200521j77fd17cbne4654d9ceceeb895@mail.gmail.com> <115224fb0806200527g4d14d25ag7644b7f9b4887cb@mail.gmail.com> <326847810806200639hfb10979o11625179fb3cc193@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213972372 3929 80.91.229.12 (20 Jun 2008 14:32:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:32:52 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Jun 20 16:33:35 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K9hgA-0005Uu-RT for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:33:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5FC1FD09; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:32:38 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05527-04-7; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:31:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5F91FCBB; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:31:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC62F1FCBD for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:31:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07801-04-9 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:31:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFD31FC7B for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:31:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so1330902wfd.5 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.142.207.8 with SMTP id e8mr1280823wfg.110.1213972267596; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.151.83.13 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:31:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <326847810806200639hfb10979o11625179fb3cc193@mail.gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:41791 Archived-At: On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Alan Stone wrote: > Hi Wolfgang, > > Hmmm... There's Mac too. > > However, I don't give up so quickly. :O) > > I find Linux rather cool. At the same time > finding Windows' desktop/window manager > more and more boring, considering the > personalisation capabilities of GNU/Linux' > desktops, etc... > > Hence, for the time being, I'll keep on truckin'. > Stimulates my grey cells. > > So I'd really like this issue figured out. > > Any clues ? ctxtools --updatecontext has been written before minimals were existing. And since there is (or was) no reliable source to take the binaries from, it didn't ever update any binaries. All it does is: - download the zip - unzip it - make the formats If you are lucky, it puts the files where you want them to be, but since every installation works its own way, it's hard to predict where to put them; on MikTeX it behaved a bit bad. And with gwTeX that provides incremental updates, the updates by ConTeXt and updates by gwTeX didn't really like each other (I mean - updates by gwTeX were shielded by the version you downloaded with ctxtools). Also, a similar problem existed with format generation which fly to the proper place if you are lucky. If you are not, then format fly to some weird place, but in general it worked. you can theoretically use mtxrun --script update --update --make --force, but I fear that it will only work with the minimals since many things are hardcoded (and not worked out perfectly yet). > (1) >You cannot update the binaries that way (you are not supposed to :). > > Why can't the binaries be updated that way (why aren't we supposed to) ? Of course you can. But if you happen to update TL package, your additions will be destroyed. And you need to rebuild all the other formats. It's not so harmful. Supposed to relates to "your system would be supposed to update its own packages", but for ConTeXt it obviously doesn't do. > (2) >On your own risk, you may update the binaries from minimals >> rsync -av \ >> rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/bin/xetex/linux/bin/ \ >> /path/to/bin/with/xetex > > Why on your own risk ? If you destroy (overwrite) the old binary :) - if you dowload the wrong binary, then you have neither working. Generally, it should work OK. Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________