From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/45102 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Mojca Miklavec" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Embedded fonts question Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:24:36 +0100 Message-ID: <6faad9f00810260324u6e569ef4h68fe3770ae850830@mail.gmail.com> References: <72FF8678-F9E1-4C5F-BBD2-0C9E9C029340@trichotomic.net> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225016819 1061 80.91.229.12 (26 Oct 2008 10:26:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:26:59 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Oct 26 11:28:00 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ku2qX-00081X-A2 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:27:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822531FB7E; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:26:36 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07849-02-7; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:25:28 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6DED1FB38; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:25:28 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81C31FB29 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:25:27 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05412-03-7 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:24:52 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A91981FB4E for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:24:37 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so1578855wfd.5 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.142.54.17 with SMTP id c17mr1996624wfa.278.1225016676154; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.143.159.5 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:24:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <72FF8678-F9E1-4C5F-BBD2-0C9E9C029340@trichotomic.net> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:45102 Archived-At: Hello David, the only thing that I can tell you: a few days/weeks ago I have noticed that Adobe Acrobat destroys encodings of documents made by ConTeXt when I compress the document (in order to reduce size, I tried to downsample and compress graphics). My first impression as that this happens because I include some PDF figures that possibly include the same font, and Acrobat tries to compress the document by using the same encoding for all fonts. So I get weird characters in place of ligatures and accented letters. The problem is not easily reproducible when trying to make a minimal example. (I did not manage to do that yet.) This is still on the short-term waiting list for me to figure out which figure causes problems, though it probably won't help me much, as it's almost definitely a bug in Acrobat. The only thing I could do is send the file with minimal example to Adobe and then wait for ages to resolve that bug (or try to use some other version on another operating system). I could easily imagine that the same kind of problem happens in print shop, where software isn't capable of fully interpreting the PDF you are sending there. The same weird kind of problem also happend to my colleague when he prepared slides in beamer (when 99% do it in Powerpoint, even though all the slides are full of equations), and then symbols in equations were completely screwed up (he didn't have his own laptop, and took it from University) in Adobe reader. Absolutely no idea why this has happened. I could suggest you to remove images and ask the printshop to try to print without images, but you cannot easily experiment with their printer. Maybe the easiest thing to do would be to try to print somewhere else. If there are bugs in software that doesn't depend on you, there's not much that you could do. LaTeX would most probably cause you the same problem when using the same font. Mojca On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 6:12 PM, David Wooten wrote: > Greetings all, > A sad story: My context-typeset dissertation was printed/distributed by a > POD publisher with aweful typographical errors (like all commas in the main > font being replaced by an ff ligature). Obviously the printer didn't check > their results. The file reads fine both for me and the publisher, but the > printer let us know that the file is unprintable due to problems with fonts > not being embedded (why they originally printed an "unprintable" file I'll > never know). > Now as far as I can tell, fonts are embedded. It was made with context MKII, > using hz and hanging punctuation, etc. When I look at the document in Adobe > Acrobat, and check the document/font details, it gives a list of embedded > fonts only. > I'm not certain that the printer is in the right, but how can I tell? Is it > possible that the pdf was altered when transferred from me to the publisher > then to the printer? That compression of the pdf (zip) had any impact? Any > other possibilities? What do you need to know to offer advice? ---I can send > the file or a part of it if it is needed. > Best, > David ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________