* spanish tilde-n lost @ 2009-06-27 23:16 Ciro Soto 2009-06-28 5:30 ` thfl 2009-06-28 12:03 ` Mojca Miklavec 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Ciro Soto @ 2009-06-27 23:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 404 bytes --] Hi all, I finally got around the intallation of context minimals. Thank you for those who helped. I ran my old tex files (in spanish) and found that \~n is not working now. It should create an n with a tilde on top, but what happens is that there is no letter printed at all. What is the fix for this? Any switch? (I know I could use \char but I am looking for a more elegant solution) thank you Ciro [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 444 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: spanish tilde-n lost 2009-06-27 23:16 spanish tilde-n lost Ciro Soto @ 2009-06-28 5:30 ` thfl 2009-06-28 6:09 ` Peter Münster 2009-06-28 6:10 ` thfl 2009-06-28 12:03 ` Mojca Miklavec 1 sibling, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: thfl @ 2009-06-28 5:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ciro, mailing list for ConTeXt users On Jun 28, 2009, at 1:16 AM, Ciro Soto wrote: > Hi all, > I finally got around the intallation of context minimals. Thank you > for those who helped. I ran my old tex files (in spanish) and found > that \~n is not working now. > It should create an n with a tilde on top, but what happens is that > there is no > letter printed at all. > > What is the fix for this? Any switch? > (I know I could use \char but I am looking for a more elegant > solution) > > thank you > Ciro > If you can do without MkII compatibility the most elegant solution may be to simply replace all instances of "\~n" with "ñ", e.g. "co\~nazo" --> "coñazo". Tom ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: spanish tilde-n lost 2009-06-28 5:30 ` thfl @ 2009-06-28 6:09 ` Peter Münster 2009-06-28 6:10 ` thfl 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Peter Münster @ 2009-06-28 6:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, thfl@mac.com wrote: > If you can do without MkII compatibility the most elegant solution may be to > simply replace all instances of "\~n" with "ñ", > e.g. "co\~nazo" --> "coñazo". Works even with MKII, you only need to declare you character set, for example: \enableregime[utf] Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: spanish tilde-n lost 2009-06-28 5:30 ` thfl 2009-06-28 6:09 ` Peter Münster @ 2009-06-28 6:10 ` thfl 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: thfl @ 2009-06-28 6:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Jun 28, 2009, at 7:30 AM, thfl@mac.com wrote: > > On Jun 28, 2009, at 1:16 AM, Ciro Soto wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I finally got around the intallation of context minimals. Thank you >> for those who helped. I ran my old tex files (in spanish) and found >> that \~n is not working now. >> It should create an n with a tilde on top, but what happens is that >> there is no >> letter printed at all. >> >> What is the fix for this? Any switch? >> (I know I could use \char but I am looking for a more elegant >> solution) >> >> thank you >> Ciro >> > > If you can do without MkII compatibility the most elegant solution > may be to simply replace all instances of "\~n" with "ñ", > e.g. "co\~nazo" --> "coñazo". > > Tom > correction: this even works in MkII also if you put a "\enableregime[utf]" in your file/environment. Tom ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: spanish tilde-n lost 2009-06-27 23:16 spanish tilde-n lost Ciro Soto 2009-06-28 5:30 ` thfl @ 2009-06-28 12:03 ` Mojca Miklavec 2009-06-28 14:31 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2009-06-28 12:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ciro, mailing list for ConTeXt users On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 01:16, Ciro Soto wrote: > Hi all, > I finally got around the intallation of context minimals. Thank you for > those who helped. I ran my old tex files (in spanish) and found that \~n is > not working now. > It should create an n with a tilde on top, but what happens is that there is > no > letter printed at all. I guess that you are asking about MKIV since it seems to work OK in MKII. > What is the fix for this? Any switch? > (I know I could use \char but I am looking for a more elegant solution) The most elegant solution is to use just ñ and it should work out of the box there. But still I would ask Hans to add the following line to enco-ini.mkiv: \defineaccent ~ N {\Ntilde} \defineaccent ~ n {\ntilde} You can try to modify the file yourself, then run "context --make" and it should start working. (I always thought that these lines were "auto-generated" from Unicode data on the fly.) Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: spanish tilde-n lost 2009-06-28 12:03 ` Mojca Miklavec @ 2009-06-28 14:31 ` Hans Hagen 2009-06-29 0:19 ` Ciro Soto 2009-06-29 9:15 ` Mojca Miklavec 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-28 14:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 01:16, Ciro Soto wrote: >> Hi all, >> I finally got around the intallation of context minimals. Thank you for >> those who helped. I ran my old tex files (in spanish) and found that \~n is >> not working now. >> It should create an n with a tilde on top, but what happens is that there is >> no >> letter printed at all. > > I guess that you are asking about MKIV since it seems to work OK in MKII. > >> What is the fix for this? Any switch? >> (I know I could use \char but I am looking for a more elegant solution) > > The most elegant solution is to use just ñ and it should work out of > the box there. > But still I would ask Hans to add the following line to enco-ini.mkiv: > > \defineaccent ~ N {\Ntilde} \defineaccent ~ n {\ntilde} > > You can try to modify the file yourself, then run "context --make" and > it should start working. > > (I always thought that these lines were "auto-generated" from Unicode > data on the fly.) not this one; the ntild probably got lost at some point during cleaning up ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: spanish tilde-n lost 2009-06-28 14:31 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-29 0:19 ` Ciro Soto 2009-06-29 6:06 ` Peter Münster 2009-06-29 9:15 ` Mojca Miklavec 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Ciro Soto @ 2009-06-29 0:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2093 bytes --] Thank you all. This is the feedback of your recommendations: \enableregime[utf] didn't work. typing just ñ worked fine. \defineaccent ~ n {\ntilde} worked using \~n and This last solution is the one I was looking for because my keyboard has no ñ thanks Ciro -- Links of your interest: http://www-personal.engin.umd.umich.edu/~cirosoto/ http://www.TheGuitarMakerExploration.com http://www.myspace.com/sotoaguirre On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > Mojca Miklavec wrote: > >> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 01:16, Ciro Soto wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> I finally got around the intallation of context minimals. Thank you for >>> those who helped. I ran my old tex files (in spanish) and found that \~n >>> is >>> not working now. >>> It should create an n with a tilde on top, but what happens is that there >>> is >>> no >>> letter printed at all. >>> >> >> I guess that you are asking about MKIV since it seems to work OK in MKII. >> >> What is the fix for this? Any switch? >>> (I know I could use \char but I am looking for a more elegant solution) >>> >> >> The most elegant solution is to use just ñ and it should work out of >> the box there. >> But still I would ask Hans to add the following line to enco-ini.mkiv: >> >> \defineaccent ~ N {\Ntilde} \defineaccent ~ n {\ntilde} >> >> You can try to modify the file yourself, then run "context --make" and >> it should start working. >> >> (I always thought that these lines were "auto-generated" from Unicode >> data on the fly.) >> > > not this one; the ntild probably got lost at some point during cleaning up > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3238 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: spanish tilde-n lost 2009-06-29 0:19 ` Ciro Soto @ 2009-06-29 6:06 ` Peter Münster 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Peter Münster @ 2009-06-29 6:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Sun, 28 Jun 2009, Ciro Soto wrote: > This last solution is the one I was looking for because my keyboard has no ñ You only need "dead_tilde" and "n" to build the "ñ". Cheers, Peter P.S.: I've just tried "dead_tilde" -> "dead_circumflex" -> "E", it works! --->> Ễ -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: spanish tilde-n lost 2009-06-28 14:31 ` Hans Hagen 2009-06-29 0:19 ` Ciro Soto @ 2009-06-29 9:15 ` Mojca Miklavec 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2009-06-29 9:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 16:31, Hans Hagen wrote: > Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> >> But still I would ask Hans to add the following line to enco-ini.mkiv: >> >> \defineaccent ~ N {\Ntilde} \defineaccent ~ n {\ntilde} >> >> (I always thought that these lines were "auto-generated" from Unicode >> data on the fly.) > > not this one; the ntild probably got lost at some point during cleaning up I would bet that not many people would use those characters if any, but on the list quite some more characters are missing that exist in Unicode: Zcircumflex, Ngrave, Wgrave, Etilde, Vtilde, Ytilde, Hdiaeresis, Tdiaeresis, Wdiaeresis, Xdiaeresis, Gacute, Kacute, Macute, Pacute, Wacute, ... (I stopped at acute, there are a few more accents ...) But just repeating the pattern (\defineaccent ^ Z {\Zcircumflex}) would mean having to define new named entities. In MKII these would not make any sense at all as there was no TeX encoding supporting these characters. An alternative would be to define them directly from Unicode data in MKIV. I'm not suggesting that this needs to be added ... Extra low priority task, or if someone else asks. Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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