* Hyphenation list and umlauts
@ 2009-06-24 13:28 Thomas Floeren
2009-06-24 13:33 ` Taco Hoekwater
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Floeren @ 2009-06-24 13:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'mailing list for ConTeXt users'
Hi,
I stumbled upon a problem with my hyphenation list:
In MKIV, all the words in the list that contain umlauts are completely ignored. MKII is fine.
Example:
\de
\hyphenation{ma-nö-v-rie-ren}
\starttext
\hyphenatedword{manövrieren}
\stoptext
Is there any workaround for this? (\odiaeresis doesn't work either)
Or do I have an encoding problem?
LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.5-2009061023 (Web2C 2009)
ConTeXt ver: 2009.06.14 21:01 MKIV fmt: 2009.6.18
btw, does anybody know a solution for my other small problems in my mail from last week?
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20090618.201708.be8aa761.en.html
Any help or hint is really appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Tom
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-06-24 13:28 Hyphenation list and umlauts Thomas Floeren @ 2009-06-24 13:33 ` Taco Hoekwater 2009-06-27 20:53 ` Thomas Floeren 2009-07-08 10:15 ` Thomas Floeren 0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2009-06-24 13:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: thomas.floeren, mailing list for ConTeXt users Thomas Floeren wrote: > Hi, > > I stumbled upon a problem with my hyphenation list: > > In MKIV, all the words in the list that contain umlauts are completely ignored. MKII is fine. Luatex 0.40.5 is broken in this regard, sorry. (The problem is that the exception handling uses \lccodes for the *byte* range 128-255, which is quite wrong). This is serious enough that there will be a 0.40.6 later in the week. Best wishes, Taco ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-06-24 13:33 ` Taco Hoekwater @ 2009-06-27 20:53 ` Thomas Floeren 2009-07-08 10:15 ` Thomas Floeren 1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Thomas Floeren @ 2009-06-27 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Jun 24, 2009, at 3:33 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > > Thomas Floeren wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I stumbled upon a problem with my hyphenation list: >> >> In MKIV, all the words in the list that contain umlauts are >> completely ignored. MKII is fine. > > Luatex 0.40.5 is broken in this regard, sorry. > > (The problem is that the exception handling uses \lccodes > for the *byte* range 128-255, which is quite wrong). This is > serious enough that there will be a 0.40.6 later in the week. > > Best wishes, > Taco It works perfectly now with lua 40.6! Thanks ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-06-24 13:33 ` Taco Hoekwater 2009-06-27 20:53 ` Thomas Floeren @ 2009-07-08 10:15 ` Thomas Floeren 2009-07-08 10:25 ` Taco Hoekwater 2009-07-08 11:06 ` Peter Rolf 1 sibling, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Thomas Floeren @ 2009-07-08 10:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Taco Hoekwater', 'mailing list for ConTeXt users' Taco Hoekwater <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com> scribbled on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:34 PM: > Thomas Floeren wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I stumbled upon a problem with my hyphenation list: >> >> In MKIV, all the words in the list that contain umlauts are >> completely ignored. MKII is fine. > > Luatex 0.40.5 is broken in this regard, sorry. > > (The problem is that the exception handling uses \lccodes > for the *byte* range 128-255, which is quite wrong). This is > serious enough that there will be a 0.40.6 later in the week. > > Best wishes, > Taco Well, in my other mail I said that it worked perfectly now with 0.40.6, but this isn’t entirely true: It works perfectly on Mac, Linux and Win Vista. But for any obscure reason I can not get it to work on Win XP (to which I’m bound at work, unfortunately). Linux and WinVista are running as virtual machines on Mac Intel systems, WinXP is running nonvirtually on PC. In order to minimize installation differences I have even copied the entire context folder from Vista to the XP machine (including binaries, minimals, texmf-local), trashed the caches, remade the formats ... but still no UTF hyphenation exceptions on the XP-PC. Do you - or anybody - have an idea of what the reason for this could be? Some stupid small thing that I have overlooked? Any help is appreciated Thanks Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-07-08 10:15 ` Thomas Floeren @ 2009-07-08 10:25 ` Taco Hoekwater 2009-07-08 11:06 ` Peter Rolf 1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2009-07-08 10:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: thomas.floeren, mailing list for ConTeXt users Thomas Floeren wrote: > > Well, in my other mail I said that it worked perfectly now with 0.40.6, but this isn’t entirely true: > > It works perfectly on Mac, Linux and Win Vista. But for any obscure reason I can not get it to work on Win XP (to which I’m bound at work, unfortunately). > > Linux and WinVista are running as virtual machines on Mac Intel systems, WinXP is running nonvirtually on PC. > > In order to minimize installation differences I have even copied the entire context folder from Vista to the XP machine (including binaries, minimals, texmf-local), trashed the caches, remade the formats ... but still no UTF hyphenation exceptions on the XP-PC. > > Do you - or anybody - have an idea of what the reason for this could be? Not a clue, sorry. ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-07-08 10:15 ` Thomas Floeren 2009-07-08 10:25 ` Taco Hoekwater @ 2009-07-08 11:06 ` Peter Rolf 2009-07-08 18:22 ` tomfloeren 2009-07-08 18:37 ` thomas.floeren 1 sibling, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Peter Rolf @ 2009-07-08 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: thomas.floeren, mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2261 bytes --] Thomas Floeren schrieb: > Taco Hoekwater <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com> scribbled on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:34 PM: > > >> Thomas Floeren wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I stumbled upon a problem with my hyphenation list: >>> >>> In MKIV, all the words in the list that contain umlauts are >>> completely ignored. MKII is fine. >>> >> Luatex 0.40.5 is broken in this regard, sorry. >> >> (The problem is that the exception handling uses \lccodes >> for the *byte* range 128-255, which is quite wrong). This is >> serious enough that there will be a 0.40.6 later in the week. >> >> Best wishes, >> Taco >> > > > > Well, in my other mail I said that it worked perfectly now with 0.40.6, but this isn’t entirely true: > > It works perfectly on Mac, Linux and Win Vista. But for any obscure reason I can not get it to work on Win XP (to which I’m bound at work, unfortunately). > > Linux and WinVista are running as virtual machines on Mac Intel systems, WinXP is running nonvirtually on PC. > > In order to minimize installation differences I have even copied the entire context folder from Vista to the XP machine (including binaries, minimals, texmf-local), trashed the caches, remade the formats ... but still no UTF hyphenation exceptions on the XP-PC. > > Do you - or anybody - have an idea of what the reason for this could be? > Some stupid small thing that I have overlooked? > Just tried your example code and I also get wrong hyphenation on XP. This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.6-2009070100 (Web2C 2009) luatex.web >= v13958 MTXrun | current version: 2009.06.14 21:01 Sorry, also no clue what goes wrong... > > Any help is appreciated > Thanks > > Thomas > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3396 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-07-08 11:06 ` Peter Rolf @ 2009-07-08 18:22 ` tomfloeren 2009-07-08 18:37 ` thomas.floeren 1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: tomfloeren @ 2009-07-08 18:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3567 bytes --] On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Peter Rolf wrote: > Thomas Floeren schrieb: >> >> Taco Hoekwater <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com> scribbled on Wednesday, >> June 24, 2009 3:34 PM: >> >> >>> Thomas Floeren wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I stumbled upon a problem with my hyphenation list: >>>> >>>> In MKIV, all the words in the list that contain umlauts are >>>> completely ignored. MKII is fine. >>>> >>> Luatex 0.40.5 is broken in this regard, sorry. >>> >>> (The problem is that the exception handling uses \lccodes >>> for the *byte* range 128-255, which is quite wrong). This is >>> serious enough that there will be a 0.40.6 later in the week. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Taco >>> >> >> >> >> Well, in my other mail I said that it worked perfectly now with >> 0.40.6, but this isn’t entirely true: >> >> It works perfectly on Mac, Linux and Win Vista. But for any obscure >> reason I can not get it to work on Win XP (to which I’m bound at >> work, unfortunately). >> >> Linux and WinVista are running as virtual machines on Mac Intel >> systems, WinXP is running nonvirtually on PC. >> >> In order to minimize installation differences I have even copied >> the entire context folder from Vista to the XP machine (including >> binaries, minimals, texmf-local), trashed the caches, remade the >> formats ... but still no UTF hyphenation exceptions on the XP-PC. >> >> Do you - or anybody - have an idea of what the reason for this >> could be? >> Some stupid small thing that I have overlooked? >> > Just tried your example code and I also get wrong hyphenation on XP. > > This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.6-2009070100 (Web2C 2009) > luatex.web >= v13958 > MTXrun | current version: 2009.06.14 21:01 > > Sorry, also no clue what goes wrong... > >> >> Maybe I should pose my question differently: Is there anybody on WinXP who can typeset my minimal (below) as intended? (I’m aware that not many people on this list are using MS systems, I personally also prefer working systems, but at work I’m (still) restricted to MS-XP. So this problem is of uttermost importance for me. I hope the ConTeXt support for MS systems will not be dropped too soon, there are still people out there dependent on those OSs) Here’s the minimal again: \de \hyphenation{ma-nö-v-rie-ren} \starttext \hyphenatedword{manövrieren} \stoptext Thanks again for any help or hint Tom >> Any help is appreciated >> Thanks >> >> Thomas >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an >> entry to the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >> archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an > entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 5294 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-07-08 11:06 ` Peter Rolf 2009-07-08 18:22 ` tomfloeren @ 2009-07-08 18:37 ` thomas.floeren 2009-07-09 4:55 ` Lutz Haseloff 1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: thomas.floeren @ 2009-07-08 18:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3567 bytes --] On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Peter Rolf wrote: > Thomas Floeren schrieb: >> >> Taco Hoekwater <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com> scribbled on Wednesday, >> June 24, 2009 3:34 PM: >> >> >>> Thomas Floeren wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I stumbled upon a problem with my hyphenation list: >>>> >>>> In MKIV, all the words in the list that contain umlauts are >>>> completely ignored. MKII is fine. >>>> >>> Luatex 0.40.5 is broken in this regard, sorry. >>> >>> (The problem is that the exception handling uses \lccodes >>> for the *byte* range 128-255, which is quite wrong). This is >>> serious enough that there will be a 0.40.6 later in the week. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Taco >>> >> >> >> >> Well, in my other mail I said that it worked perfectly now with >> 0.40.6, but this isn’t entirely true: >> >> It works perfectly on Mac, Linux and Win Vista. But for any obscure >> reason I can not get it to work on Win XP (to which I’m bound at >> work, unfortunately). >> >> Linux and WinVista are running as virtual machines on Mac Intel >> systems, WinXP is running nonvirtually on PC. >> >> In order to minimize installation differences I have even copied >> the entire context folder from Vista to the XP machine (including >> binaries, minimals, texmf-local), trashed the caches, remade the >> formats ... but still no UTF hyphenation exceptions on the XP-PC. >> >> Do you - or anybody - have an idea of what the reason for this >> could be? >> Some stupid small thing that I have overlooked? >> > Just tried your example code and I also get wrong hyphenation on XP. > > This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.6-2009070100 (Web2C 2009) > luatex.web >= v13958 > MTXrun | current version: 2009.06.14 21:01 > > Sorry, also no clue what goes wrong... > >> >> Maybe I should pose my question differently: Is there anybody on WinXP who can typeset my minimal (below) as intended? (I’m aware that not many people on this list are using MS systems, I personally also prefer working systems, but at work I’m (still) restricted to MS-XP. So this problem is of uttermost importance for me. I hope the ConTeXt support for MS systems will not be dropped too soon, there are still people out there dependent on those OSs) Here’s the minimal again: \de \hyphenation{ma-nö-v-rie-ren} \starttext \hyphenatedword{manövrieren} \stoptext Thanks again for any help or hint Tom >> Any help is appreciated >> Thanks >> >> Thomas >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an >> entry to the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >> archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an > entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 5334 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-07-08 18:37 ` thomas.floeren @ 2009-07-09 4:55 ` Lutz Haseloff 2009-07-09 6:10 ` Thomas Floeren 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Lutz Haseloff @ 2009-07-09 4:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4356 bytes --] Hi Thomas, after changing lefthyphenmin for de in lang-ger.tex to "2" I was able to hyphenate your word after the Duden rules ma-nö-vrie-ren. I think, in german "v" can't be a syllable. Greetings Lutz see: http://www.duden.de/definition/man%C3%B6vrieren 2009/7/8 <thomas.floeren@mac.com> > > On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Peter Rolf wrote: > > Thomas Floeren schrieb: > > Taco Hoekwater <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com> <taco@elvenkind.com> scribbled on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:34 PM: > > > > Thomas Floeren wrote: > > > Hi, > > I stumbled upon a problem with my hyphenation list: > > In MKIV, all the words in the list that contain umlauts are > completely ignored. MKII is fine. > > > Luatex 0.40.5 is broken in this regard, sorry. > > (The problem is that the exception handling uses \lccodes > for the *byte* range 128-255, which is quite wrong). This is > serious enough that there will be a 0.40.6 later in the week. > > Best wishes, > Taco > > > Well, in my other mail I said that it worked perfectly now with 0.40.6, but this isn’t entirely true: > > It works perfectly on Mac, Linux and Win Vista. But for any obscure reason I can not get it to work on Win XP (to which I’m bound at work, unfortunately). > > Linux and WinVista are running as virtual machines on Mac Intel systems, WinXP is running nonvirtually on PC. > > In order to minimize installation differences I have even copied the entire context folder from Vista to the XP machine (including binaries, minimals, texmf-local), trashed the caches, remade the formats ... but still no UTF hyphenation exceptions on the XP-PC. > > Do you - or anybody - have an idea of what the reason for this could be? > Some stupid small thing that I have overlooked? > > > Just tried your example code and I also get wrong hyphenation on XP. > > This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.6-2009070100 (Web2C 2009) luatex.web >= > v13958 > MTXrun | current version: 2009.06.14 21:01 > > Sorry, also no clue what goes wrong... > > Maybe I should pose my question differently: > > Is there anybody on WinXP who can typeset my minimal (below) as intended? > > (I’m aware that not many people on this list are using MS systems, I > personally also prefer working systems, but at work I’m (still) restricted > to MS-XP. > So this problem is of uttermost importance for me. > I hope the ConTeXt support for MS systems will not be dropped too soon, > there are still people out there dependent on those OSs) > > Here’s the minimal again: > > \de > \hyphenation{ma-nö-v-rie-ren} > \starttext > \hyphenatedword{manövrieren} > \stoptext > > Thanks again for any help or hint > Tom > > Any help is appreciated > Thanks > > Thomas > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 6502 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-07-09 4:55 ` Lutz Haseloff @ 2009-07-09 6:10 ` Thomas Floeren 2009-07-09 6:29 ` Lutz Haseloff 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Thomas Floeren @ 2009-07-09 6:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'mailing list for ConTeXt users' Hi Lutz, Thanks for your answer. According to my (reformed) Duden both manöv-rieren and manö-vrieren are correct (in prereform orthography manöv-rieren was not allowed); see also ei-nan-der|ein-an-der, in-te-res-sant|in-ter-es-sant etc. But this is not the problem. You can try any other arbitrary example: \de \hyphenation{fräs-schleu-der schmutz-be-häl-ter-was-ser-stands-alarm} \starttext \hyphenatedword{Frässchleuder} \hyphenatedword{Schmutzbehälterwasserstandsalarm} \stoptext Greetings Thomas ________________________________ From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl [mailto:ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Lutz Haseloff Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 6:55 AM To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts Hi Thomas, after changing lefthyphenmin for de in lang-ger.tex to "2" I was able to hyphenate your word after the Duden rules ma-nö-vrie-ren. I think, in german "v" can't be a syllable. Greetings Lutz see: http://www.duden.de/definition/man%C3%B6vrieren 2009/7/8 <thomas.floeren@mac.com> On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Peter Rolf wrote: Thomas Floeren schrieb: Taco Hoekwater <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com> <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com> scribbled on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:34 PM: Thomas Floeren wrote: Hi, I stumbled upon a problem with my hyphenation list: In MKIV, all the words in the list that contain umlauts are completely ignored. MKII is fine. Luatex 0.40.5 is broken in this regard, sorry. (The problem is that the exception handling uses \lccodes for the *byte* range 128-255, which is quite wrong). This is serious enough that there will be a 0.40.6 later in the week. Best wishes, Taco Well, in my other mail I said that it worked perfectly now with 0.40.6, but this isn’t entirely true: It works perfectly on Mac, Linux and Win Vista. But for any obscure reason I can not get it to work on Win XP (to which I’m bound at work, unfortunately). Linux and WinVista are running as virtual machines on Mac Intel systems, WinXP is running nonvirtually on PC. In order to minimize installation differences I have even copied the entire context folder from Vista to the XP machine (including binaries, minimals, texmf-local), trashed the caches, remade the formats ... but still no UTF hyphenation exceptions on the XP-PC. Do you - or anybody - have an idea of what the reason for this could be? Some stupid small thing that I have overlooked? Just tried your example code and I also get wrong hyphenation on XP. This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.6-2009070100 (Web2C 2009) luatex.web >= v13958 MTXrun | current version: 2009.06.14 21:01 Sorry, also no clue what goes wrong... Maybe I should pose my question differently: Is there anybody on WinXP who can typeset my minimal (below) as intended? (I’m aware that not many people on this list are using MS systems, I personally also prefer working systems, but at work I’m (still) restricted to MS-XP. So this problem is of uttermost importance for me. I hope the ConTeXt support for MS systems will not be dropped too soon, there are still people out there dependent on those OSs) Here’s the minimal again: \de \hyphenation{ma-nö-v-rie-ren} \starttext \hyphenatedword{manövrieren} \stoptext Thanks again for any help or hint Tom Any help is appreciated Thanks Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-07-09 6:10 ` Thomas Floeren @ 2009-07-09 6:29 ` Lutz Haseloff 2009-07-09 6:39 ` Taco Hoekwater 0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Lutz Haseloff @ 2009-07-09 6:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: thomas.floeren, mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 7196 bytes --] Hi Thomas, You are right, "stand-salarm" is definitely wrong. I think too, that LuaTex should hyphenate the word like given in \hyphenation{}. It seems that \hyphenation{} is ignored. Greetings Lutz 2009/7/9 Thomas Floeren <thomas.floeren@boschung.com> > > Hi Lutz, > > Thanks for your answer. > According to my (reformed) Duden both manöv-rieren and manö-vrieren are > correct (in prereform orthography manöv-rieren was not allowed); see also > ei-nan-der|ein-an-der, in-te-res-sant|in-ter-es-sant etc. > > But this is not the problem. You can try any other arbitrary example: > > \de > \hyphenation{fräs-schleu-der schmutz-be-häl-ter-was-ser-stands-alarm} > \starttext > \hyphenatedword{Frässchleuder} > \hyphenatedword{Schmutzbehälterwasserstandsalarm} > \stoptext > > > Greetings > Thomas > > > ________________________________ > > From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl [mailto:ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl] On > Behalf Of Lutz Haseloff > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 6:55 AM > To: mailing list for ConTeXt users > Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation list and umlauts > > > Hi Thomas, > > after changing lefthyphenmin for de in lang-ger.tex to "2" I was able to > hyphenate your word > after the Duden rules ma-nö-vrie-ren. I think, in german "v" can't be a > syllable. > > Greetings Lutz > > see: http://www.duden.de/definition/man%C3%B6vrieren > > > > > 2009/7/8 <thomas.floeren@mac.com> > > > > On Jul 8, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Peter Rolf wrote: > > > Thomas Floeren schrieb: > > Taco Hoekwater <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com> > <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com> scribbled on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:34 > PM: > > > > Thomas Floeren wrote: > > > Hi, > > I stumbled upon a problem with my > hyphenation list: > > In MKIV, all the words in the list > that contain umlauts are > completely ignored. MKII is fine. > > > Luatex 0.40.5 is broken in this regard, > sorry. > > (The problem is that the exception handling > uses \lccodes > for the *byte* range 128-255, which is quite > wrong). This is > serious enough that there will be a 0.40.6 > later in the week. > > Best wishes, > Taco > > > Well, in my other mail I said that it worked > perfectly now with 0.40.6, but this isn’t entirely true: > > It works perfectly on Mac, Linux and Win Vista. But > for any obscure reason I can not get it to work on Win XP (to which I’m > bound at work, unfortunately). > > Linux and WinVista are running as virtual machines > on Mac Intel systems, WinXP is running nonvirtually on PC. > > In order to minimize installation differences I have > even copied the entire context folder from Vista to the XP machine > (including binaries, minimals, texmf-local), trashed the caches, remade the > formats ... but still no UTF hyphenation exceptions on the XP-PC. > > Do you - or anybody - have an idea of what the > reason for this could be? > Some stupid small thing that I have overlooked? > > > Just tried your example code and I also get wrong > hyphenation on XP. > > This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.40.6-2009070100 (Web2C 2009) > luatex.web >= v13958 > MTXrun | current version: 2009.06.14 21:01 > > Sorry, also no clue what goes wrong... > > > > Maybe I should pose > my question differently: > Is there anybody on WinXP who can typeset my minimal (below) as > intended? > > (I’m aware that not many people on this list are using MS systems, I > personally also prefer working systems, but at work I’m (still) restricted > to MS-XP. > So this problem is of uttermost importance for me. > I hope the ConTeXt support for MS systems will not be dropped too > soon, there are still people out there dependent on those OSs) > > Here’s the minimal again: > > \de > \hyphenation{ma-nö-v-rie-ren} > \starttext > \hyphenatedword{manövrieren} > \stoptext > > Thanks again for any help or hint > Tom > > > > Any help is appreciated > Thanks > > Thomas > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, > please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / > http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : > https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please > add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an > entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 10346 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-07-09 6:29 ` Lutz Haseloff @ 2009-07-09 6:39 ` Taco Hoekwater 2009-07-09 7:43 ` Thomas Floeren ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2009-07-09 6:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Lutz Haseloff wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > You are right, "stand-salarm" is definitely wrong. I think too, that LuaTex > should hyphenate the word > like given in \hyphenation{}. It seems that \hyphenation{} is ignored. Hi guys, Are you using the binary from minimals, or the binary from the supelec.fr package, here: http://foundry.supelec.fr/gf/project/luatex/frs/ There might be a difference. Best wishes, Taco ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-07-09 6:39 ` Taco Hoekwater @ 2009-07-09 7:43 ` Thomas Floeren 2009-07-09 8:48 ` Lutz Haseloff 2009-07-10 5:32 ` Thomas Floeren 2 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Thomas Floeren @ 2009-07-09 7:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'mailing list for ConTeXt users' Taco Hoekwater <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com> scribbled on Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:40 AM: > Lutz Haseloff wrote: >> Hi Thomas, >> >> You are right, "stand-salarm" is definitely wrong. I think too, that >> LuaTex should hyphenate the word like given in \hyphenation{}. It >> seems that \hyphenation{} is ignored. > > Hi guys, > > Are you using the binary from minimals, or the binary from the > supelec.fr package, here: > > http://foundry.supelec.fr/gf/project/luatex/frs/ > > There might be a difference. > > Best wishes, > Taco From here http://minimals.contextgarden.net/current/bin/luatex/mswin/bin/ or there ftp://akagi.ms.u-tokyo.ac.jp/pub/TeX/win32/. These are DLLs. Some time ago I tried a lua exe from your link but couldn’t get it to work. I will try it again. Thanks Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-07-09 6:39 ` Taco Hoekwater 2009-07-09 7:43 ` Thomas Floeren @ 2009-07-09 8:48 ` Lutz Haseloff 2009-07-09 10:56 ` Peter Rolf 2009-07-10 5:32 ` Thomas Floeren 2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread From: Lutz Haseloff @ 2009-07-09 8:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1162 bytes --] I use the binaries from http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html. (This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.41.0-2009070721 (Web2C 2009)) 2009/7/9 Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> > Lutz Haseloff wrote: > >> Hi Thomas, >> >> You are right, "stand-salarm" is definitely wrong. I think too, that >> LuaTex >> should hyphenate the word >> like given in \hyphenation{}. It seems that \hyphenation{} is ignored. >> > > Hi guys, > > Are you using the binary from minimals, or the binary from the > supelec.fr package, here: > > http://foundry.supelec.fr/gf/project/luatex/frs/ > > There might be a difference. > > Best wishes, > Taco > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2334 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-07-09 8:48 ` Lutz Haseloff @ 2009-07-09 10:56 ` Peter Rolf 0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Peter Rolf @ 2009-07-09 10:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1996 bytes --] Lutz Haseloff schrieb: > I use the binaries from > http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html. same here (size matters) :) > (This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.41.0-2009070721 (Web2C 2009)) > > 2009/7/9 Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com>> > > Lutz Haseloff wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > > You are right, "stand-salarm" is definitely wrong. I think > too, that LuaTex > should hyphenate the word > like given in \hyphenation{}. It seems that \hyphenation{} is > ignored. > > > Hi guys, > > Are you using the binary from minimals, or the binary from the > supelec.fr <http://supelec.fr> package, here: > > http://foundry.supelec.fr/gf/project/luatex/frs/ > > There might be a difference. > > Best wishes, > Taco > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an > entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl> / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3804 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-07-09 6:39 ` Taco Hoekwater 2009-07-09 7:43 ` Thomas Floeren 2009-07-09 8:48 ` Lutz Haseloff @ 2009-07-10 5:32 ` Thomas Floeren 2009-07-10 6:33 ` Taco Hoekwater 2009-07-10 9:21 ` Mojca Miklavec 2 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Thomas Floeren @ 2009-07-10 5:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Taco Hoekwater', 'mailing list for ConTeXt users' Taco Hoekwater <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com> scribbled on Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:40 AM: > Lutz Haseloff wrote: >> Hi Thomas, >> >> You are right, "stand-salarm" is definitely wrong. I think too, that >> LuaTex should hyphenate the word like given in \hyphenation{}. It >> seems that \hyphenation{} is ignored. > > Hi guys, > > Are you using the binary from minimals, or the binary from the > supelec.fr package, here: > > http://foundry.supelec.fr/gf/project/luatex/frs/ > > There might be a difference. > > Best wishes, > Taco Hi, Unfortunately I can not make work the luatetex.exe from your link. luatools --generate seems to work fine, but luatools --selfupdate gives "LuaTools | fileio: unable to locate new script", same for mtxrun --selfupdate. context --make cont-en then gives "MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'". I think I have a 'regular' minimals installation (the dll versions of luatex work). Any hint? Thanks thomas ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-07-10 5:32 ` Thomas Floeren @ 2009-07-10 6:33 ` Taco Hoekwater 2009-07-10 9:21 ` Mojca Miklavec 1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2009-07-10 6:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: thomas.floeren; +Cc: 'mailing list for ConTeXt users' Thomas Floeren wrote: > Hi, > > Unfortunately I can not make work the luatetex.exe from your link. > > luatools --generate seems to work fine, but luatools --selfupdate gives "LuaTools | fileio: unable to locate new script", same for mtxrun --selfupdate. > context --make cont-en then gives "MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'". > > I think I have a 'regular' minimals installation (the dll versions of luatex work). > > Any hint? I have no idea, and I am not using windows myself either, sorry. I understand this is a serious problem, but if it works ok on Vista, then I am even more baffled than you are if it doesn't work on XP. Best wishes, Taco ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-07-10 5:32 ` Thomas Floeren 2009-07-10 6:33 ` Taco Hoekwater @ 2009-07-10 9:21 ` Mojca Miklavec 2009-07-10 16:51 ` tomfloeren 2009-07-16 6:55 ` Thomas Floeren 1 sibling, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2009-07-10 9:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: thomas.floeren, mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Taco Hoekwater On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 07:32, Thomas Floeren wrote: > Taco Hoekwater <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com> scribbled on Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:40 AM: > >> Lutz Haseloff wrote: >>> Hi Thomas, >>> >>> You are right, "stand-salarm" is definitely wrong. I think too, that >>> LuaTex should hyphenate the word like given in \hyphenation{}. It >>> seems that \hyphenation{} is ignored. >> >> Hi guys, >> >> Are you using the binary from minimals, or the binary from the >> supelec.fr package, here: >> >> http://foundry.supelec.fr/gf/project/luatex/frs/ >> >> There might be a difference. >> >> Best wishes, >> Taco > > > Hi, > > Unfortunately I can not make work the luatetex.exe from your link. > > luatools --generate seems to work fine, but luatools --selfupdate gives "LuaTools | fileio: unable to locate new script", same for mtxrun --selfupdate. > context --make cont-en then gives "MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'". > > I think I have a 'regular' minimals installation (the dll versions of luatex work). > > Any hint? Maybe you need the latest ConTeXt to be able to use the latest luatex? 1.) you can fetch luatex from w32tex 2.) you might have to use --context=experimental without generating formats, then manually overwritting luatex binary and finally repeating all the steps to build the formats But there's no guarantee (maybe try that in a separate copy of minimals). Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-07-10 9:21 ` Mojca Miklavec @ 2009-07-10 16:51 ` tomfloeren 2009-07-16 6:55 ` Thomas Floeren 1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: tomfloeren @ 2009-07-10 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Jul 10, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 07:32, Thomas Floeren wrote: >> Taco Hoekwater <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com> scribbled on Thursday, >> July 09, 2009 8:40 AM: >> >>> Lutz Haseloff wrote: >>>> Hi Thomas, >>>> >>>> You are right, "stand-salarm" is definitely wrong. I think too, >>>> that >>>> LuaTex should hyphenate the word like given in \hyphenation{}. It >>>> seems that \hyphenation{} is ignored. >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> Are you using the binary from minimals, or the binary from the >>> supelec.fr package, here: >>> >>> http://foundry.supelec.fr/gf/project/luatex/frs/ >>> >>> There might be a difference. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Taco >> >> >> Hi, >> >> Unfortunately I can not make work the luatetex.exe from your link. >> >> luatools --generate seems to work fine, but luatools --selfupdate >> gives "LuaTools | fileio: unable to locate new script", same for >> mtxrun --selfupdate. >> context --make cont-en then gives "MTXrun | unknown script >> 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'". >> >> I think I have a 'regular' minimals installation (the dll versions >> of luatex work). >> >> Any hint? > > Maybe you need the latest ConTeXt to be able to use the latest luatex? The latest I find is the 2009-06-14 21:04 (from http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-2.htm) ; is this correct or am I missing something? > 1.) you can fetch luatex from w32tex > 2.) you might have to use --context=experimental without generating > formats, then manually overwritting luatex binary and finally > repeating all the steps to build the formats > > But there's no guarantee (maybe try that in a separate copy of > minimals). > > Mojca Thanks a lot Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: Hyphenation list and umlauts 2009-07-10 9:21 ` Mojca Miklavec 2009-07-10 16:51 ` tomfloeren @ 2009-07-16 6:55 ` Thomas Floeren 1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread From: Thomas Floeren @ 2009-07-16 6:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Mojca Miklavec', 'mailing list for ConTeXt users' Cc: 'Taco Hoekwater' Mojca Miklavec <mailto:mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> scribbled on Friday, July 10, 2009 11:21 AM: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 07:32, Thomas Floeren wrote: >> Taco Hoekwater <mailto:taco@elvenkind.com> scribbled on Thursday, >> July 09, 2009 8:40 AM: >> >>> Lutz Haseloff wrote: >>>> Hi Thomas, >>>> >>>> You are right, "stand-salarm" is definitely wrong. I think too, >>>> that LuaTex should hyphenate the word like given in >>>> \hyphenation{}. It seems that \hyphenation{} is ignored. >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> Are you using the binary from minimals, or the binary from the >>> supelec.fr package, here: >>> >>> http://foundry.supelec.fr/gf/project/luatex/frs/ >>> >>> There might be a difference. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Taco >> >> >> Hi, >> >> Unfortunately I can not make work the luatetex.exe from your link. >> >> luatools --generate seems to work fine, but luatools --selfupdate >> gives "LuaTools | fileio: unable to locate new script", same for >> mtxrun --selfupdate. context --make cont-en then gives "MTXrun | >> unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'". >> >> I think I have a 'regular' minimals installation (the dll versions >> of luatex work). >> >> Any hint? > > Maybe you need the latest ConTeXt to be able to use the latest luatex? > 1.) you can fetch luatex from w32tex > 2.) you might have to use --context=experimental without generating > formats, then manually overwritting luatex binary and finally > repeating all the steps to build the formats > > But there's no guarantee (maybe try that in a separate copy of > minimals). > > Mojca Thanks for your help, Mojca. I installed the experimental minimals and they work fine with luatex 0.42 (the 'dll-version'); however, the hyphenation problem on XP persists (mac, linux, vista all fine). \de \hyphenation{fräs-schleu-der} \starttext \hyphenatedword{Frässchleuder} \stoptext This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.42.0-2009071600 (Web2C 2009) ConTeXt ver: 2009.07.15 21:49 MKIV fmt: 2009.7.16 int: english/english On W32TeX I can only find the same lua-'dll'-version (link to ftp://akagi.ms.u-tokyo.ac.jp), which already runs (= the one with the hyph-problem). The mingw version ('exe'-version) from Taco (supelec.fr) however I cannot get to run, even with the experimental-minimal. Thanks Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
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