From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/52090 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mojca Miklavec Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: how to get minimals working? Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:43:49 +0200 Message-ID: <6faad9f00908041243v47b38883k69c9e806fa9172d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <6faad9f00908040722q59001e39y8d65b955387a013f@mail.gmail.com> <92B35E4D-B567-4434-9375-8B732AD57E14@uva.nl> <6faad9f00908041045pe783debub3a6201a9215a13e@mail.gmail.com> <4755196F-CEAE-49BC-9C5B-FD0CCB4C9276@uva.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1249415089 2528 80.91.229.12 (4 Aug 2009 19:44:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 19:44:49 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Aug 04 21:44:42 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from [195.12.62.10] (helo=balder.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MYPwA-0006q5-N4 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:44:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9EF1C9A63; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:44:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.elvenkind.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id QTJDFphBPN-N; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:44:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD10C9AAA; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:44:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE36C9AAA for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:44:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.elvenkind.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id A7MpPjuMDdtQ for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:43:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f217.google.com (mail-ew0-f217.google.com [209.85.219.217]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEC7C9A63 for ; Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:43:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by ewy17 with SMTP id 17so3639535ewy.2 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:43:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2xckVr+e/td6FfdE4/LPWsZUFKtmaymqDw+XoBdnnO0=; b=qH9vm4U3xxdpYdpK2U3PRkiZSed7AHYIR5X8TBvqrtBBxBu3aIZVbzhbkn5ySnt6ni L2kyLcrXacUugmDsT+d2hdaedBo29ed4eGYRfs6ft9UVLWURv9eAuRFQNfHsViSQTIFT fVC05R5HAx7VBXoR4sDBTOjveDuGTgx6C51DM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PaG6vLKkHiXMXxQq3enRLZG7F8QwtvnnlJT7Q1se3JUdzZ87KbKEKN5cHCBl467L/e p+v6i/s6FBapVq1sgirvGY6vAr0BEhcdwXaLaTc/QK/KCUCmp66+jVS5QUDmRzgAC3ib Ux9DnqpiPOVABJyT2MCVTRyhpTQ8pDXs/J6tc= Original-Received: by 10.216.15.84 with SMTP id e62mr1591991wee.207.1249415029920; Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:43:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4755196F-CEAE-49BC-9C5B-FD0CCB4C9276@uva.nl> X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:52090 Archived-At: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 20:47, Hans van der Meer wrote: > > Thanks Mojca for your answer and suggestion. There surely is something with > my typescripts that makes them happy under mkii and very unhappy under mkiv. MKIV has undergone *heavy* changes recently, and fonts were one of the area that has been influenced a lot. You should not expect your old typescripts to work with MKIV without modifications. > Switching them out of the way at least brings typesetting in LM back. > However, I am attached to my use of Lucida and Mathtimes (both from Y&Y) and > I would very much like to continue using them. Do you have a pointer with > what to start? Math definitions are a bit non-trivial and might be a subject to change. I thought Hans was using Lucida extensively, at least all of his manuals are typeset in lucida, so you have a slightly better chance to get it done. I'll stop responding about math at this point since I don't know enough and I should not invest time into it right now. > Would you give changing texnansi for 8r a good chance, for a > first try? Or is more heavy surgery on my typefiles needed? It's best if Hans answers about the preferred way to use the old tfm fonts with ConTeXt. But for math it definitely means heavy surgery. Not even times and palatino are working properly as far as I know. You may take a look at type-otf.mkiv and type-vfu. One needs to create a table of glyphs. I fear that Lucida has them at non-standard slots. I would gladly help with lucida, but I may not right now. > I was never very > good with typefiles and I fear very much I can start over all again for > mkiv. :) ... and I fear you are right. Well, you might need some help to get Lucida done. Since you are happy with TeX Gyre, most fonts that kept causing you problem are already covered, right? > For the regular postscript fonts like NewCenturySchoolbook etc. \usetypescript[schola] \setupbodyfont[schola] or \usetypescript[schoolbook] \setupbodyfont[schoolbook] But ... what matching math font were you usually using? > I will we be > happy to use the TeX Gyre files for these. I guess they are already > somewhere in my system. You probably have texgyreschola-regular.otf etc. if you either have TL 2008/09 or ConTeXt minimals. > Would you please point me to a relevant starting > point for the necessary incantations? Hmmmm .... http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeX_Gyre, but the best reference is usually type-xxx.mkiv/tex. > For some dark reason I always seem to > get lost when searching the ContextWiki for a specific topic. That might not necessary be your problem :) Wiki is not in the best shape, but ... 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