Differences in smart quotes MKII -> MKIV

Differences in smart quotes MKII -> MKIV

[James Fisher]

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Hi,


(Forgetting our documentation philosophy session for a minute,)

I'm experiencing issues in MKIV with smart quotes.  Specifically, opening
quotes.  Compare the output of `texexec dash-test' and `context quote-test'
on the following:

\starttext
`Yes, but --- '

`--- this is an interruption! Get down on the floor!'

The interjection was quite {\em unexpected} ---
  indeed, `shocking'.
\stoptext


And the following with double quotes:


\starttext
``Yes, but --- ''

``--- this is an interruption! Get down on the floor!''

The interjection was quite {\em unexpected} ---
  indeed, ``shocking''.
\stoptext


In both cases, MKIV treats the opening grave character (is that the name?
backtick?) literally rather than as an opening smart quote.



James

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Re: Differences in smart quotes MKII -> MKIV

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 18:58, James Fisher wrote:
>
> ``Yes, but --- ''
>
> In both cases, MKIV treats the opening grave character (is that the name?
> backtick?) literally rather than as an opening smart quote.

That's on purpose (there are some threads on the mailing list that
explain it). You may modify the behaviour if you want (without asking
how to do it), but it's best to use the proper quotes or
\quotation{...}.

Mojca

See:
[NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100118.123457.5dc7162a.en.html
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Re: Differences in smart quotes MKII -> MKIV

[James Fisher]

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Apologies, that must have slipped through my shoddy search.

Upon consideration I prefer the \quote and \quotation method.  Trusty old
semantic markup. :)

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Mojca Miklavec <
mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 18:58, James Fisher wrote:
> >
> > ``Yes, but --- ''
> >
> > In both cases, MKIV treats the opening grave character (is that the name?
> > backtick?) literally rather than as an opening smart quote.
>
> That's on purpose (there are some threads on the mailing list that
> explain it). You may modify the behaviour if you want (without asking
> how to do it), but it's best to use the proper quotes or
> \quotation{...}.
>
> Mojca
>
> See:
> [NTG-context] using `` '' the output is wrong.
> http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100118.123457.5dc7162a.en.html
>
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