* [NTG-context] "see also"
@ 2025-09-07 10:50 Henning Hraban Ramm
2025-09-07 11:27 ` [NTG-context] " Mikael Sundqvist
2025-09-07 12:47 ` Rik Kabel
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2025-09-07 10:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
for cross references in an index, I can use \seeindex{cow}{cattle}.
That gives an index entry "cow see cattle" if I never used \index{cow},
otherwise "cow 123, see cattle".
In these cases, I’d prefer "cow 123, see _also_ cattle".
How can I do that?
Hraban
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread* [NTG-context] Re: "see also" 2025-09-07 10:50 [NTG-context] "see also" Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2025-09-07 11:27 ` Mikael Sundqvist 2025-09-07 11:36 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 2025-09-07 12:47 ` Rik Kabel 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Mikael Sundqvist @ 2025-09-07 11:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi, do you look for \setuplabeltext [en] [see=see also ] ? /Mikael On Sun, Sep 7, 2025 at 12:55 PM Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote: > > Hi, > for cross references in an index, I can use \seeindex{cow}{cattle}. > That gives an index entry "cow see cattle" if I never used \index{cow}, > otherwise "cow 123, see cattle". > > In these cases, I’d prefer "cow 123, see _also_ cattle". > How can I do that? > > Hraban > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) > archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context > wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* [NTG-context] Re: "see also" 2025-09-07 11:27 ` [NTG-context] " Mikael Sundqvist @ 2025-09-07 11:36 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2025-09-07 11:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Am 07.09.25 um 13:27 schrieb Mikael Sundqvist: > do you look for > > \setuplabeltext > [en] > [see=see also ] I knew this existed, but it would change the text for _all_ cross references, while just "see" is better in most cases. I don’t need an automatism for my few instances. Something that I can put into a custom macro would be enough, like \define[2]\seealso{\seeindex[text=see also]{#1}{#2}} Hraban ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* [NTG-context] Re: "see also" 2025-09-07 10:50 [NTG-context] "see also" Henning Hraban Ramm 2025-09-07 11:27 ` [NTG-context] " Mikael Sundqvist @ 2025-09-07 12:47 ` Rik Kabel 2025-09-07 16:36 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Rik Kabel @ 2025-09-07 12:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2001 bytes --] On 2025-09-07 06:50, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Hi, > for cross references in an index, I can use \seeindex{cow}{cattle}. > That gives an index entry "cow see cattle" if I never used > \index{cow}, otherwise "cow 123, see cattle". > > In these cases, I’d prefer "cow 123, see _also_ cattle". > How can I do that? > > Hraban > I have a convoluted way of doing it. First, I define a topic index and a parallel topic seeindex which gobbles the page number: \defineregister[Tindex] \setupregister [Tindex][n=2, command={\Word}, balance=no, method=default, % or New follows Newton! compress=yes, check=no,% allows seeindex to plussed entries expansion=yes, pagecommand=\IndexPageCommand, ] \defineregister[SeeTindex]% see also index for Topics \setupregister [SeeTindex][n=2, command=, balance=no, method=default, % or New follows Newton! compress=, maxwidth=2.3in, expansion=yes, pagecommand=\gobbleoneargument, ] Then I can index normally \TIndex{quotation+direct}% \TIndex{quotation+indirect}% \TIndex{marking}% except for the see also entry, which requires: \setregisterentry[SeeTindex][keys:2=zzz,entries:1=punctuation,entries:2={{\em See also} marking}]% and then I can get -- Rik [-- Attachment #1.2.1: Type: text/html, Size: 3019 bytes --] [-- Attachment #1.2.2: O0nH5Z4JMMSivDRQ.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 11151 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 511 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* [NTG-context] Re: "see also" 2025-09-07 12:47 ` Rik Kabel @ 2025-09-07 16:36 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 2025-09-11 13:47 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2025-09-07 16:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Am 07.09.25 um 14:47 schrieb Rik Kabel: > > On 2025-09-07 06:50, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: >> Hi, >> for cross references in an index, I can use \seeindex{cow}{cattle}. >> That gives an index entry "cow see cattle" if I never used >> \index{cow}, otherwise "cow 123, see cattle". >> >> In these cases, I’d prefer "cow 123, see _also_ cattle". >> How can I do that? >> > I have a convoluted way of doing it. > > First, I define a topic index and a parallel topic seeindex which > gobbles the page number: > > \defineregister[Tindex] > \setupregister [Tindex][n=2, > ] > \defineregister[SeeTindex]% see also index for Topics > \setupregister [SeeTindex][n=2, > pagecommand=\gobbleoneargument, > ] > > Then I can index normally > > \TIndex{quotation+direct}% > \TIndex{quotation+indirect}% > \TIndex{marking}% > > except for the see also entry, which requires: > > \setregisterentry[SeeTindex] > [keys:2=zzz,entries:1=punctuation,entries:2={{\em See also} marking}]% And then, I guess: \placeregister[Tindex,SeeTindex] Yes, thank you, that’s an option I didn’t consider. I already have 5 registers, another one won’t hurt. Hraban ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* [NTG-context] Re: "see also" 2025-09-07 16:36 ` Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2025-09-11 13:47 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2025-09-11 13:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 508 bytes --] Am 07.09.25 um 18:36 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: > Am 07.09.25 um 14:47 schrieb Rik Kabel: >> \setregisterentry[SeeTindex] >> [keys:2=zzz,entries:1=punctuation,entries:2={{\em See also} >> marking}]% > > And then, I guess: \placeregister[Tindex,SeeTindex] > > Yes, thank you, that’s an option I didn’t consider. I already have 5 > registers, another one won’t hurt. Ok, I implemented it in my book, and it works like I wanted (see attached). Thank you! Hraban [-- Attachment #2: rereference.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 18898 bytes --] [-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 511 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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