* defining bug not setting up blank spaces
@ 2017-02-13 20:16 Pablo Rodriguez
2017-02-14 12:13 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2017-02-13 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Dear list,
I have the following sample:
\defineblank[ab][none]
\starttext
\defineblank[ab][big]
a
\blank[ab]
b
\stoptext
Am I missing something or is there a reason to force the new definition
(instead of the setup) of already defined blank spaces?
I mean, if this isn’t a bug, I don’t see the gain in this behavior.
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
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2017-02-13 20:16 defining bug not setting up blank spaces Pablo Rodriguez
@ 2017-02-14 12:13 ` Hans Hagen
2017-02-14 16:27 ` Pablo Rodriguez
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2017-02-14 12:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 2/13/2017 9:16 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> I have the following sample:
>
> \defineblank[ab][none]
> \starttext
> \defineblank[ab][big]
> a
> \blank[ab]
> b
> \stoptext
>
> Am I missing something or is there a reason to force the new definition
> (instead of the setup) of already defined blank spaces?
>
> I mean, if this isn’t a bug, I don’t see the gain in this behavior.
?
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2017-02-14 12:13 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2017-02-14 16:27 ` Pablo Rodriguez
2017-02-14 17:41 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2017-02-14 16:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 02/14/2017 01:13 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 2/13/2017 9:16 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> Dear list,
>>
>> I have the following sample:
>>
>> \defineblank[ab][none]
>> \starttext
>> \defineblank[ab][big]
>> a
>> \blank[ab]
>> b
>> \stoptext
>>
>> Am I missing something or is there a reason to force the new definition
>> (instead of the setup) of already defined blank spaces?
>>
>> I mean, if this isn’t a bug, I don’t see the gain in this behavior.
>
> ?
Hans,
I don’t understand why \setupblank[ab][big] doesn’t work (with a
previous \defineblank[ab]).
I mean, for most elements \setupelement is possible after \defineelement.
What is different with \setupblank?
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
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* Re: defining bug not setting up blank spaces
2017-02-14 16:27 ` Pablo Rodriguez
@ 2017-02-14 17:41 ` Hans Hagen
2017-02-14 18:17 ` Pablo Rodriguez
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2017-02-14 17:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 2/14/2017 5:27 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> On 02/14/2017 01:13 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 2/13/2017 9:16 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>>> Dear list,
>>>
>>> I have the following sample:
>>>
>>> \defineblank[ab][none]
>>> \starttext
>>> \defineblank[ab][big]
>>> a
>>> \blank[ab]
>>> b
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> Am I missing something or is there a reason to force the new definition
>>> (instead of the setup) of already defined blank spaces?
>>>
>>> I mean, if this isn’t a bug, I don’t see the gain in this behavior.
>>
>> ?
>
> Hans,
>
> I don’t understand why \setupblank[ab][big] doesn’t work (with a
> previous \defineblank[ab]).
>
> I mean, for most elements \setupelement is possible after \defineelement.
>
> What is different with \setupblank?
Well, you cannot
\definecolor[red][r=1]
\setupcolor[red][r=.5]
either. Adapting a blank this way would also be inefficient because then
we need to keep carry around more state info and all these relatively
basic core macro are tuned for efficiency
Hans
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2017-02-14 17:41 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2017-02-14 18:17 ` Pablo Rodriguez
2017-02-14 19:34 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2017-02-14 18:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On 02/14/2017 06:41 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> [...]
>> I don’t understand why \setupblank[ab][big] doesn’t work (with a
>> previous \defineblank[ab]).
>>
>> I mean, for most elements \setupelement is possible after \defineelement.
>>
>> What is different with \setupblank?
>
> Well, you cannot
>
> \definecolor[red][r=1]
>
> \setupcolor[red][r=.5]
>
> either. Adapting a blank this way would also be inefficient because then
> we need to keep carry around more state info and all these relatively
> basic core macro are tuned for efficiency
Many thanks for your reply, Hans.
Is there anything wrong in defining the same blank again?
I need to add special blanks in templates. In some documents, those
blanks will be bigger than in other ones. Is there anything wrong in
redefining in the second documents the blanks I previously defined in
the template?
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
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* Re: defining bug not setting up blank spaces
2017-02-14 18:17 ` Pablo Rodriguez
@ 2017-02-14 19:34 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2017-02-14 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 2/14/2017 7:17 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> On 02/14/2017 06:41 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> I don’t understand why \setupblank[ab][big] doesn’t work (with a
>>> previous \defineblank[ab]).
>>>
>>> I mean, for most elements \setupelement is possible after \defineelement.
>>>
>>> What is different with \setupblank?
>>
>> Well, you cannot
>>
>> \definecolor[red][r=1]
>>
>> \setupcolor[red][r=.5]
>>
>> either. Adapting a blank this way would also be inefficient because then
>> we need to keep carry around more state info and all these relatively
>> basic core macro are tuned for efficiency
>
> Many thanks for your reply, Hans.
>
> Is there anything wrong in defining the same blank again?
not that know of
> I need to add special blanks in templates. In some documents, those
> blanks will be bigger than in other ones. Is there anything wrong in
> redefining in the second documents the blanks I previously defined in
> the template?
>
> Many thanks for your help,
>
> Pablo
>
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