From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/46970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Valle Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Choosing ConTeXt install method on Mac Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:05:07 +0100 Message-ID: <71A9C22D-264D-4915-9003-6E92E587E9F5@di.unito.it> References: <6faad9f00901211420r3212b309rd2266a9b2047f9f4@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1543723398==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1232629658 7342 80.91.229.12 (22 Jan 2009 13:07:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:07:38 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jan 22 14:08:49 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LPzIe-00010V-Fj for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:08:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659231FE67; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:07:27 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29802-04-3; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:06:17 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5AAD1FE20; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:06:17 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7E71FE20 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:06:16 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29802-04-2 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:05:35 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (filter3-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.71]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8BC01FDF2 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:05:35 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from pianeta.di.unito.it (pianeta.di.unito.it [130.192.156.1]) by filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0MD5Yn3032366 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:05:34 +0100 Original-Received: from [192.168.3.104] (multilabfw-nat3.multilab.unito.it [130.192.205.50]) by pianeta.di.unito.it (INFO-DIP) with ESMTP id n0MD5ADU028237 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO userCertificateDN= AuthenticatedUser=valle ) for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:05:10 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00901211420r3212b309rd2266a9b2047f9f4@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-dipinfo-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Department of Computer Science technical staff for more information X-AntiVirus: Scanned for viruses by VirusFinder @2001-tecnici@di.unito.it - Email Clean X-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-102.597, required 3.5, autolearn=not spam, AUTHENTICATEDUSER -100.00, BAYES_00 -2.60, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, WHOIS_NETSOLPR 0.00) X-MailScanner-From: valle@di.unito.it X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=130.192.156.1; country=IT; region=12; city=Turin; latitude=45.0500; longitude=7.6667; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=45.0500,7.6667&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 169108129 - 4cd22588d8ee X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.71 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:46970 Archived-At: --===============1543723398== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-15-919236725 --Apple-Mail-15-919236725 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi, I've MacTeX + Minimals. I use minimals with Smultron. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals/Mac_Installation Best -a- On 21 Jan 2009, at 23:20, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:09 PM, David Rogers wrote: >> Hello all >> >> I'm going to do a clean re-install of my machine (Tiger on PPC) =20 >> soon, and >> I'd like guidance on methods of installing ConTeXt. I assume that =20 >> (a) TeX >> Live 2008 with its tlmgr utility, or (b) ConTeXt minimals, are the =20= >> two >> realistic possibilities - is this correct? >> >> What I'd like: >> >> - A clear way of keeping ConTeXt mkiv usable and up to date with =20 >> Hans's >> latest version >> >> - An installation method that will continue to be maintained, and =20 >> that is >> expected to be used by the majority of ordinary users of ConTeXt =20 >> in the >> future >> >> >> ...So should I go for TeX Live, or the minimals, or something else =20= >> I don't >> know about yet? > > I would suggest MacTeX 2008 + minimals. > > I have both, with manually slightly updated ConTeXt in MacTeX 2008. > MacTeX is nice since it "always works" (includes LaTeX and dozens of > fonts and other packages that might be missing in minimals) and you > have a backup system in case that the "latest alpha" in minimals gets > broken. > > I have this in ~/.bash_profile: > #. context/tex/setuptex context/tex > > and I keep commenting/uncommenting it as needed (or just execute that > line in bash). The nice thing about minimals is that it doesn't > interfere with other TeX distributions, so you can have it installed > in parallel and it doesn't take too much space when compared with TeX > Live. > > You need some additional hacks to get the minimals working in gui > applications. Oliver started writing an installer that could simplify > matters a bit, but got stuck with some external bugs at some point and > didn't publically release anything yet. > > Mojca > ______________________________________________________________________=20= > _____________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an =20 > entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/=20 > ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ______________________________________________________________________=20= > _____________ -------------------------------------------------- Andrea Valle -------------------------------------------------- CIRMA - DAMS Universit=E0 degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle --> andrea.valle@unito.it -------------------------------------------------- "The objectives of SuperCollider have been taken a stage further with =20= the development of SAOL, the fruits of a research project based at =20 MIT, launched in 1998" (P. Manning, Electronic and Computer Music, revised and expanded =20 edition, 2004) --Apple-Mail-15-919236725 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi,=A0

I've MacTeX + Minimals.
I use = minimals with Smultron.

Best

-a-


On 21 Jan 2009, at 23:20, Mojca Miklavec = wrote:

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:09 PM, = David Rogers wrote:
Hello all

I'm going to do a clean = re-install of my machine (Tiger on PPC) soon, and
I'd like guidance on methods of installing ConTeXt. = I assume that (a) TeX
Live 2008 with its tlmgr = utility, or (b) ConTeXt minimals, are the two
realistic possibilities - is this correct?

What I'd = like:

- A clear way of keeping ConTeXt mkiv usable and up = to date with Hans's
latest version

- An = installation method that will continue to be maintained, and that = is
expected to be used by the majority of ordinary = users of ConTeXt in the


...So = should I go for TeX Live, or the minimals, or something else I = don't
know about yet?
=

I would suggest MacTeX 2008 + minimals.

I have = both, with manually slightly updated ConTeXt in MacTeX 2008.
MacTeX is nice since it "always works" (includes = LaTeX and dozens of
fonts and other packages = that might be missing in minimals) and you
have a = backup system in case that the "latest alpha" in minimals gets
broken.

I have this in = ~/.bash_profile:
#. context/tex/setuptex = context/tex

and I keep commenting/uncommenting it as needed (or = just execute that
line in bash). The nice thing = about minimals is that it doesn't
interfere = with other TeX distributions, so you can have it installed
in parallel and it doesn't take too much space when = compared with TeX
Live.

You need = some additional hacks to get the minimals working in gui
applications. Oliver started writing an installer = that could simplify
matters a bit, but got = stuck with some external bugs at some point and
didn't publically release anything yet.

If your question is of interest = to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist = : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/= mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
http://www.cirma.unito.it/andre= a/
= --------------------------------------------------

"The objectives of SuperCollider have been taken a stage further with = the development of SAOL, the fruits of a research project based at MIT, = launched in 1998"=A0
(P. Manning, Electronic and Computer = Music, revised and expanded edition, = 2004)

= --Apple-Mail-15-919236725-- --===============1543723398== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ --===============1543723398==--