How to override a font in a typescript

How to override a font in a typescript

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Practical example: when I set up palatino, the typescript
file set 'modern' as the typeface (which again tries to load
the lm files :))

Assume now that I want to overrule that choice, and only
that choice. Can I do this from within my source file?

-- 
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re: How to override a font in a typescript

[Hans Hagen]

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
> Practical example: when I set up palatino, the typescript
> file set 'modern' as the typeface (which again tries to load
> the lm files :))
> 
> Assume now that I want to overrule that choice, and only
> that choice. Can I do this from within my source file?

one problem is that a typescript not always defines rm, ss tt mm so that leaves 
you with holes in your font system; one option is to nil the preloader in for 
instance the palatino typescript; put this in your local copy of cont-sys.tex:

\let\preloadfonts\relax
\usetypescript[palatino][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt]

Hans


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Re[2]: How to override a font in a typescript

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Friday, July 8, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>> Practical example: when I set up palatino, the typescript
>> file set 'modern' as the typeface (which again tries to load
>> the lm files :))
>> 
>> Assume now that I want to overrule that choice, and only
>> that choice. Can I do this from within my source file?

> one problem is that a typescript not always defines rm, ss tt mm so that leaves
> you with holes in your font system; one option is to nil the preloader in for
> instance the palatino typescript; put this in your local copy of cont-sys.tex:

> \let\preloadfonts\relax
> \usetypescript[palatino][\defaultencoding]
> \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt]

I already nihiled preloadfonts in my cont-loc. Otherwise, I
wouldn't have been able to compile anything so far :)

The problem is that the Palatino typescript *explictily*
mentions 'modern' as its tt font (scaled by 1.75). I would
like to override that in my source file. Is this possible?

-- 
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re: How to override a font in a typescript

[Hans Hagen]

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

> The problem is that the Palatino typescript *explictily*
> mentions 'modern' as its tt font (scaled by 1.75). I would
> like to override that in my source file. Is this possible?

you can define any typescript that you want, so

\starttypescript [my-palatino] [ec]

   \definetypeface [palatino] [rm] [serif] [palatino] [default] 
[encoding=\typescripttwo]
   \definetypeface [palatino] [tt] [mono]  [courier]   [default] 
[encoding=\typescripttwo,rscale=1.075] % probably smaller, say .95
   \definetypeface [palatino] [mm] [math]  [palatino] [default] [encoding=default]

\stoptypescript

\usetypescript[my-palatino][ec] ...


Hans


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Re[2]: How to override a font in a typescript

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Friday, July 8, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

> you can define any typescript that you want, so

> \starttypescript [my-palatino] [ec]

>    \definetypeface [palatino] [rm] [serif] [palatino] [default]
> [encoding=\typescripttwo]
>    \definetypeface [palatino] [tt] [mono]  [courier]   [default]
> [encoding=\typescripttwo,rscale=1.075] % probably smaller, say .95
>    \definetypeface [palatino] [mm] [math]  [palatino]
> [default] [encoding=default]

> \stoptypescript

> \usetypescript[my-palatino][ec] ...

Ok so far, but having to rewrite all of it just to override a
single value seems excessive, to me. Isn't there a simple
way to only override only some things?

I had tried a \definetypeface line on its own, but it didn't
seem to work ...

-- 
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re: How to override a font in a typescript

[Adam Lindsay]

Giuseppe Bilotta said this at Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:24:10 +0200:

>Ok so far, but having to rewrite all of it just to override a
>single value seems excessive, to me. Isn't there a simple
>way to only override only some things?
>
>I had tried a \definetypeface line on its own, but it didn't
>seem to work ...

Hmm. How about:

\definetypescriptsynonym[modern][courier]

% and test with:

\usetypescript[adobekb][ec]
\usetypescript[palatino][ec]
\setupbodyfont[palatino]

\starttext
\showfontstrip
\stoptext

(It'll screw up the relative sizing put in place, and URW's Courier is
singularly ugly, and I would endorse what Hans said: you should be using
Latin Modern anyway, but I think it achieves what you want...)
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Re[2]: How to override a font in a typescript

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Friday, July 8, 2005 Adam Lindsay wrote:

> Giuseppe Bilotta said this at Fri, 8 Jul 2005 15:24:10 +0200:

>>Ok so far, but having to rewrite all of it just to override a
>>single value seems excessive, to me. Isn't there a simple
>>way to only override only some things?
>>
>>I had tried a \definetypeface line on its own, but it didn't
>>seem to work ...

> Hmm. How about:

> \definetypescriptsynonym[modern][courier]

That's quite a hack, but if there is no other choice ...

> % and test with:

> \usetypescript[adobekb][ec]
> \usetypescript[palatino][ec]
> \setupbodyfont[palatino]

> \starttext
> \showfontstrip
> \stoptext

> (It'll screw up the relative sizing put in place, and URW's Courier is
> singularly ugly, and I would endorse what Hans said: you should be using
> Latin Modern anyway, but I think it achieves what you want...)

Actually I was thinking about something like Lucida Console
... provided that I manage to set it up :)

-- 
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re: How to override a font in a typescript

[Hans Hagen]

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

>>\definetypescriptsynonym[modern][courier]
>  
> That's quite a hack, but if there is no other choice ...

but a valid one; well, the idea is that oen can combine fonts, so ...

btw, why don't you want to install latin modern? the monospaced variant combines 
well with palatino; of course one has to play with rscale a bit (i'm amazed 
about the amount of tex docs and books on the web that have funny relative scaling)

> Actually I was thinking about something like Lucida Console
> ... provided that I manage to set it up :)

what platform? there is a myway on that; we can add the metrics to the (windows) 
font zip file if needed

Hans

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Re[2]: How to override a font in a typescript

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Friday, July 8, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

>>>\definetypescriptsynonym[modern][courier]
>>  
>> That's quite a hack, but if there is no other choice ...

> but a valid one; well, the idea is that oen can combine fonts, so ...

Not so valid at all. For example, it doesn't allow me to
reset the scale factor.

I really think we need a way to overrule single selections
within a typescript without resorting to file synonyms.

> btw, why don't you want to install latin modern? the
> monospaced variant combines well with palatino; of course
> one has to play with rscale a bit (i'm amazed about the
> amount of tex docs and books on the web that have funny
> relative scaling)

Because I want to try something different.

Plus, if I didn't, you wouldn't notice where the typescript
mechanism would need to be extended to provide more
flexibility :)

>> Actually I was thinking about something like Lucida Console
>> ... provided that I manage to set it up :)

> what platform? there is a myway on that; we can add the metrics to the (windows)
> font zip file if needed

I'm on Windows XP. Anyway, now I'm having a look at the Luxi
fonts. Look interesting.

-- 
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta