From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/38148 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Zhichu Chen" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Placing meaningful footnotes Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:29:53 +0800 Message-ID: <769ba7780712190629v4cdb821ck47f5cccc6cb2e975@mail.gmail.com> References: <769ba7780712170816g62541825w957047f172bb856b@mail.gmail.com> <115224fb0712180159u4c40ddb2wf4dea34f9299eb22@mail.gmail.com> <769ba7780712180645g21612f4cq2a9830d26f418e27@mail.gmail.com> <115224fb0712190354y19cab85cpee4da94a1bebd0c7@mail.gmail.com> <769ba7780712190600s1cde56e2m5c269c58c0ae6564@mail.gmail.com> <115224fb0712190606n576954a4n59eacd370b937dcd@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2029187413==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1198074697 17874 80.91.229.12 (19 Dec 2007 14:31:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:31:37 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Dec 19 15:31:47 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J4zxY-0006i2-1a for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:31:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BAD1FC57; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:31:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 06125-02-4; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:30:48 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A321C1FC11; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:30:48 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF8CB1FC11 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:30:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04746-03 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:29:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.228]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F451FC07 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:29:56 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id m7so1863801nzf.29 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:29:54 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.142.241.10 with SMTP id o10mr2910801wfh.155.1198074593958; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:29:53 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.143.155.15 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:29:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <115224fb0712190606n576954a4n59eacd370b937dcd@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:38148 Archived-At: --===============2029187413== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21521_4325204.1198074593957" ------=_Part_21521_4325204.1198074593957 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Dec 19, 2007 10:06 PM, Wolfgang Schuster < schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > You try to start with these moduls and adapt it to the note machanism. > > > Yes, I would love to do that. But I have some politics things to read. I > > have to remember them in one month. So please forgive my laziness. After > > then, I will have time to test luatex on Chinese and some other > interesting > > things like the Weiqi module or the footnote we are talking about. > > I think you're also interested in the following link, there is module > for LaTeX and > plain TeX to write gezhu (intertextpostil) with XeTeX. > > http://code.google.com/p/gezhu/ I knew it. It's an excellent job, actually it uses hbox rather than vbox. And it end a paragraph to get the horizontal position with \lastbox before the intertextpostil and then it can test whether or not the postil could fit the rest of the line. Anyway, in the ancient Chinese people's defense, one column is just one page. They write things on a piece of long narrow bamboo from top to bottom and weave them from right to left. So I still think I should use a \box255 to store one column and change the \output routine to weave them on a page. But it's a little slow when using page arrangement so I guess I should design a new algorithm myself to make it useful. And the intertextpostil would use multicolumn with ConTeXt easily with no hacks. > > > I have myself also no time to write any code for the second version of > the weiqi module. > > Wolfgang > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- Best Regards Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------- Zhi-chu Chen | Shanghai Synchrotron Radiation Facility No. 2019 | Jialuo Rd. | Jiading | Shanghai | P.R. 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On Dec 19, 2007 10:06 PM, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > You try to start with these moduls and adapt it to the note machanism.

> Yes, I would love to do that. But I have some politics things to read. I
> have to remember them in one month. So please forgive my laziness. After
> then, I will have time to test luatex on Chinese and some other interesting
> things like the Weiqi module or the footnote we are talking about.

I think you're also interested in the following link, there is module
for LaTeX and
plain TeX to write gezhu (intertextpostil) with XeTeX.

http://code.google.com/p/gezhu/
I knew it. It's an excellent job, actually it uses hbox rather than vbox. And it end a paragraph to get the horizontal position with \lastbox before the intertextpostil and then it can test whether or not the postil could fit the rest of the line.

Anyway, in the ancient Chinese people's defense, one column is just one page. They write things on a piece of long narrow bamboo from top to bottom and weave them from right to left. So I still think I should use a \box255 to store one column and change the \output routine to weave them on a page. But it's a little slow when using page arrangement so I guess I should design a new algorithm myself to make it useful. And the intertextpostil would use multicolumn with ConTeXt easily with no hacks.


I have myself also no time to write any code for the second version of
the weiqi module.

Wolfgang
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