From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/56690 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Fisher Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: bib module, inproceedings & mkii/mkiv incompatibility Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:04:44 +0000 Message-ID: <771da05a1003041004tedcac10ic965c82631164080@mail.gmail.com> References: <6faad9f01003040955p7f2189a6p4e0aa5f5fad89ffe@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0697161704==" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1267725911 19283 80.91.229.12 (4 Mar 2010 18:05:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 18:05:11 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Mar 04 19:05:06 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NnFPp-00078r-O5 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:04:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48199C9C8C; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:04:53 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id lmKM0UTBE-Wm; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:04:49 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1712C9C7F; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:04:49 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51437C9C7F for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:04:48 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id UCSOnG876524 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:04:45 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f227.google.com (mail-ew0-f227.google.com [209.85.219.227]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64296C9C67 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 19:04:45 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by ewy27 with SMTP id 27so953494ewy.34 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:04:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=M0Sx/AHxIiJQ0pvA2KfIaf51CnrriPjkbSv9tjY8XkQ=; b=cBFsuQ0P9+TR9GsSYaEDFnsRGs8NfXRovPlDs6PG9gWH4mW3i0atT0sso1CLf36AYo G6YuFzYIJPJP30bWxeNkFz00d9mCH1cEJXnfUwhCyzm03lcZgPh67abElZRVVvIxSqqM 7HxMzJiM8O9U75mApTBGvEI92kVXCk8eZM19s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OTVEK2ag3FQLExlY9EBezUfifMQJiPiWOBKRUlTZx1A9yhdXIC2w3Bu8V/JNuEPAeP dBHjQRPYKELKNQUFg4i253Ps9/h7yKc6t1qa/CDTgld7nVXI4a/4ikmUMWimDtE6ty6B z9ysWjUmahjIR/cny94swAT2KwulEMrNaNzqw= Original-Received: by 10.213.104.69 with SMTP id n5mr3697142ebo.20.1267725885002; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:04:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6faad9f01003040955p7f2189a6p4e0aa5f5fad89ffe@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:56690 Archived-At: --===============0697161704== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a6830c542b0480fd6f1e --001636c5a6830c542b0480fd6f1e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I confirm the above -- with the exception that mkiv does show the year, just after the authors. On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Mojca Miklavec < mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Taco, > > the following example (I need to admit that I'm not sure how to > properly cite inproceedings) returns a different result in mkii and > mkiv. My citation (the fields I use) is probably a bit wrong, but the > results should be the same in my opinion. (Only mkii shows the year, > in mkiv there's an extra space; the month is not shown anywhere, > pubname is only shown in mkii although it's probably not needed > anyway since it's already the title (= booktitle in bibtex?) that > takes that role. It's also not really clear to me why I need to use > author and not artauthor, but well ...) > > > It may be sensible to have some reference about which fields are > sensible for what type of publication also among the ConTeXt manuals. > > From some unofficial BibTeX reference > (http://www.kfunigraz.ac.at/~binder/texhelp/bibtx-14.html > ): > > Format: > @INPROCEEDINGS{citation_key, > required_fields [, optional_fields] } > > Required fields: author, title, booktitle, year > Optional fields: editor, pages, organization, publisher, address, > month, note, key > > \usemodule > [bib] > \setuppublications > [alternative=num, > criterium=all, > sorttype=cite] > > \startpublication > [k=3Ddosimetry, > t=inproceedings, > a=Kormoll, > s=, > u=] > \arttitle{3D In-vivo Dosimetry for Photon Radiotherapy Based on Pair > Production} > \title{IEEE Nuclear Science Symposium Medical Imaging Conference > Record} > \author[]{Thomas}[T.]{}{Kormoll} > \author[]{Daniela}[D.]{}{Kunath} > \author[]{Wolfgang}[W.]{}{Enghardt} > \volume{} > \issue{} > \city{Orlando, Florida} > \pubyear{2009} > \pubname{IEEE Nuclear Science Symposium Conference Record} > \month{October} > \day{25-31} > \pages{2969-2975} > \doi{} > \abstract{} > \stoppublication > > \starttext > > \cite[3Ddosimetry] > > \placepublications > > \stoptext > > Thanks, > Mojca > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > --001636c5a6830c542b0480fd6f1e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I confirm the above -- with the exception that mkiv does show the year, jus= t after the authors.

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 = at 5:55 PM, Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote= :
Hello Taco,

the following example (I need to admit that I'm not sure how to
properly cite inproceedings) returns a different result in mkii and
mkiv. My citation (the fields I use) is probably a bit wrong, but the
results should be the same in my opinion. (Only mkii shows the year,
in mkiv there's an extra space; the month is not shown anywhere,
pubname is only shown =A0in mkii although it's probably not needed
anyway since it's already the title (=3D booktitle in bibtex?) that
takes that role. It's also not really clear to me why I need to use
author and not artauthor, but well ...)


It may be sensible to have some reference about which fields are
sensible for what type of publication also among the ConTeXt manuals.

>From some unofficial BibTeX reference
(http://www.kfunigraz.ac.at/~binder/texhelp/bibtx-14.html= ):

Format:
=A0 =A0 @INPROCEEDINGS{citation_key,
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0required_fields [, optional_fields]= }

Required fields: author, title, booktitle, year
Optional fields: editor, pages, organization, publisher, address,
month, note, key

\usemodule
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[bib]
\setuppublications
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[alternative=3Dnum,
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 criterium=3Dall,
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 sorttype=3Dcite]

\startpublication
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[k=3D3Ddosimetry,
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 t=3Dinproceedings,
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 a=3DKormoll,
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 s=3D,
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 u=3D]
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\arttitle{3D In-vivo Dosimetry for Photon Radiotherapy Base= d on Pair
Production}
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\title{IEEE Nuclear Science Symposium Medical Imaging Confe= rence Record}
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\author[]{Thomas}[T.]{}{Kormoll}
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\author[]{Daniela}[D.]{}{Kunath}
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\author[]{Wolfgang}[W.]{}{Enghardt}
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\volume{}
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\issue{}
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\city{Orlando, Florida}
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\pubyear{2009}
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\pubname{IEEE Nuclear Science Symposium Conference Record}<= br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\month{October}
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\day{25-31}
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\pages{2969-2975}
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\doi{}
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0\abstract{}
\stoppublication

\starttext

\cite[3Ddosimetry]

\placepublications

\stoptext

Thanks,
=A0 =A0Mojca
___________________________________________________________________________= ________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / <= a href=3D"http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context" target=3D"_blank"= >http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage =A0: http://= www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive =A0: http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki =A0 =A0 : http:= //contextgarden.net
___________________________________________________________________________= ________

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