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From: James Fisher <jameshfisher@gmail.com>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Occasional words sticking out from flush-right
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:31:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <771da05a1003041531p74f2857awb1e95ff57ee3bd3a@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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(Can I leave all of this for a bit?  I'll reply tomorrow, I think, but
first...)

I'd like to go back to the very first post about problems with flush right.
The \setbreakpoints command works to an extent, but I'm still experiencing
issues where, when a hyphenated string has been broken, the first half of it
still sticks out.  I unfortunately can't show you the example, and it's hard
to reproduce.  But can anyone answer: does the TeX line-breaking algorithm
retain the possibility of lines overrunning the defined boundary, if the
algorithm decides that the alternatives are more ugly?

James

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:47 PM, luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:44 PM, James Fisher <jameshfisher@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >ConTeXt was not created to produce documentation for ConTeXt.
> This is not  the point.
> The point is that code documentation  of ConTeXt can be made with ConTeXt .
> see for example http://foundry.supelec.fr/gf/project/modules/scmsvn
> We don't need Sphinx or similar, but
> of course Hans can decide to use it.
>
> >  HTML is typographically crude, but, and this
> > is important, *informationally*, HTML (and the web and friends) is far
> from
> > crude.
> true and your job is good.
>
> > Mmm, yes, you've made quite a lot of demands there on the curious
> programmer
> > having stumbled across ConTeXt ...
> None is saying that it's easy. And, really,  it's not easy.
>
> > I don't think so.  The "just study the code" approach shows an awfully
> > austere, reductionist philosophy.
> True but  I have not said this.
> TeX comes with TeXBook ("high-mid-low" level" manual )
> and Tex-The program- (the code)
> It's the same here, more or less.
>
> > Humans understand things from the top
> > down.  It's the computers that work from the bottom up.
> Humans understand things in bottom-up, top-down , try-and-error and
> probably other ways
> that  we can understand enough to formalize.
> Working with TeX is a mix of bottom-up, top-down try-and-error and fortune.
>
> >
> > I think you're thinking of 'forking' as something dangerous (yeah, the
> word
> > sounds painful), as something that will fragment the community, as
> something
> > that destroys the concept of 'authority'.  It's really not.  Where you
> get
> > forking you get merging at roughly the same rate.
> No, not dangerous. Actually useless . And yes, actually community and
> authority
> are important in this context.
> Why is so hard to understand ?
>
> > Why are they the only contributors?
> See Aditya.
> Apart from translations, Taco and Hans are the only persons that
> actually are able to produce a
> minimal, complete and exhaustive  documentation.
>
> --
> luigi
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-04 23:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.607.1267648881.26807.ntg-context@ntg.nl>
2010-03-03 21:47 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
2010-03-03 21:53   ` Arthur Reutenauer
2010-03-03 23:19     ` James Fisher
2010-03-04  0:08       ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-03-04  2:35         ` James Fisher
2010-03-04  4:06           ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-03-04 14:39             ` James Fisher
2010-03-04 17:11               ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-03-04 17:15                 ` luigi scarso
2010-03-04 17:30                   ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-03-04 18:43                     ` luigi scarso
2010-03-04 17:50                 ` James Fisher
2010-03-04  7:10           ` luigi scarso
2010-03-04 14:25             ` James Fisher
2010-03-04 18:42               ` luigi scarso
2010-03-04 19:44                 ` James Fisher
2010-03-04 20:04                   ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-03-04 20:47                   ` luigi scarso
2010-03-04 23:31                     ` James Fisher [this message]
2010-03-04 23:36                       ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-03-04 23:47                         ` James Fisher
2010-03-05  9:30                   ` luigi scarso
2010-03-03 23:09 ` setbreakpoints Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
2010-03-04 14:40   ` setbreakpoints James Fisher
2010-03-03 19:19 Occasional words sticking out from flush-right James Fisher
2010-03-03 19:36 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-03-03 20:41   ` James Fisher
2010-03-03 20:44     ` luigi scarso
2010-03-03 21:19       ` James Fisher
2010-03-03 22:46         ` luigi scarso

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