From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/29555 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans van der Meer Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: quote and quotation Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:15:55 +0200 Message-ID: <79686C74-EC8E-446A-A2F1-486578613E2D@science.uva.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1283673194==" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153473464 4066 80.91.229.2 (21 Jul 2006 09:17:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:17:44 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Jul 21 11:17:42 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G3r8b-0003gy-Ox for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:17:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76B9128A5; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:17:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07450-04-4; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:17:31 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC44127FC; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:17:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41EBA127FC for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:17:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07450-04-3 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:17:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp.science.uva.nl (smtp.science.uva.nl [146.50.4.84]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id EED33127B6 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:17:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from 119-105.uva.surfnetthuis.nl [145.98.119.105] by smtp.science.uva.nl with ESMTP (sendmail 8.11.6p2/config 11.36). id k6L9HFv18083; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:17:15 +0200 X-Organisation: Faculty of Science, University of Amsterdam, The Netherlands X-URL: http://www.science.uva.nl/ Original-To: NTG ConTeXt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:29555 Archived-At: --===============1283673194== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--927504035 --Apple-Mail-1--927504035 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed The \quote and \quotation macros surround text with quotation marks. These are made language dependent. In dutch the old way was an opening mark at the baseline and closing at the top of the letters; ConTeXt has been programmed this way. However, the lower quotation mark is less and less used in Dutch (vide Jan Renkema, Schrijfwijzer, 2002, p.382) and the English variants are now commonly used. This leads to two questions: 1. is there a setup-macro that can be used? (switching language around before quote and changing back inside is a bit awkward); \setupdelimitedtext[..][..] is not documented in the manual, is this the one to use, and how? I tried this but could not effect a change and from the code I could not deduce what to change. 2. is this a case for changing ConTeXt's default for Dutch? Hans van der Meer --Apple-Mail-1--927504035 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
The \quote and = \quotation macros surround text with quotation marks. These are made = language dependent.
In dutch the old way was an opening mark = at the baseline and closing at the top of the letters; ConTeXt has been = programmed this way.
However, the lower quotation mark is less = and less used in Dutch (vide Jan Renkema, Schrijfwijzer, 2002, p.382) = and the English variants are now commonly used.

This leads to two = questions:
1. is there a setup-macro that can be used? = (switching language around before quote and changing back inside is a = bit awkward);
\setupdelimitedtext[..][..]=A0 is = not documented in the manual, is this the one to use, and = how?
= I tried this but could not effect a change and from the code I = could not deduce what to change.
2. is this a case for = changing ConTeXt's default for Dutch?

Hans van der = Meer

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