From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/17119 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Maurice Diamantini (free) Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Now is the time for all... (Was: A simple project.) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:37:38 +0100 Message-ID: <7C1FA42F-3945-11D9-BCC1-000D93AF7A34@free.fr> References: <720069C9-3867-11D9-884C-000A9595B57C@ensta.fr> <419B1792.9030309@elvenkind.com> Reply-To: Diamantini Maurice , mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1100770683 5973 80.91.229.6 (18 Nov 2004 09:38:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Maurice Diamantini Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Nov 18 10:37:51 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CUijf-00063y-00 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:37:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68213127D5; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:37:51 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01912-02-3; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:37:49 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FECA127D1; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:37:49 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1EE0127D1 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:37:47 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01912-02-2 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:37:47 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from postfix3-2.free.fr (unknown [213.228.0.169]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17578127CE for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:37:47 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [10.0.1.34] (lns-vlq-39f-81-56-135-43.adsl.proxad.net [81.56.135.43]) by postfix3-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8C8C109; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:37:46 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <419B1792.9030309@elvenkind.com> Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:17119 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:17119 Le 17 nov. 04, =E0 10:19, Taco Hoekwater a =E9crit : > Maurice Diamantini wrote: > >> So, I propose that besides the standard upgrade cont-tmf.zip for=20 >> context, >> Pragma propose =E0 **independant** "context" distribution which : >> 1 - ***doesn't use*** the standard kpath environment variables > > This is the main item, because this requirement implies using=20 > non-standard executables. I agree with you that such a distribution=20 > would be a great thing to have, but unless some people are actually=20 > willing to invest (a fairly large amount of time) in it, it is simply=20= > not going to happen. Hum, I thought it would be possible to just change the name of the environment variable used be the kpsea system. But if these names are hard coded, perhaps it is still possible to patch the source for all the external tools used by context and relying on kpathsea. I suppose that Hans could do a "contextize" perl script which automatise this transformation from the standard tools archives. > I have started a project last spring, whose goal is to deliver almost=20= > precisely a "standalone, fast and idiot-proof distribution of=20 > ConTeXt", but it has been a one person affair so far, and I do not=20 > have unlimited time to spend on it. Anyway, have a look at > > http://www.metatex.org Woaow! This is very ambitious ! You are redoing the full tex envirenment! If you realy want to do that, you should: - first create a contributing information system (as the wiki context=20 :-) - create an open source project on sourceforge or something like that, (this mean mailing lists, cvs access, ...) - and then call for a partitipation on comp.text.tex group. I sure there is several TeX guru interested. This project is much more that what I asked for! Cordialement, Maurice