Re: local footnote (Tables) problem

Re: local footnote (Tables) problem

[Bowen Alan C.]

Please excuse my persistence. The following is a minimal file illustrating a problem that I am having with a multipage table with local footnotes. Setting split=yes or split=repeat in \setuptables produces obviously unsatisfactory results. What I need is a multipage table that has good page divisions and puts the table's label on the last page only. I have been unable to find  documentation that would help with this yet.

I am using MK2 in today’s Context in the Context Minimals.

Alan

\showframe

\starttext

\dorecurse{3}{\input knuth\par}

\start

\setuptables
[bodyfont=9pt,
 width=\textwidth,
 rulethickness=0.03em,
 distance=big,
 split=repeat]

\placetable
[split,top,nonumber]
[tab:Table03]
{Table 3}
{\startlocalfootnotes[conversion=character,bodyfont=9pt]
 \placelegend
   {\startframedtext[frame=off,offset=none,width=fit]
    \starttablehead
    \HL[3]
    \NC \REF[c]{Column A} \NC \REF[c]{Column B} \NC\SR
    \HL
    \stoptablehead
    \starttable[|p(11.5pc)|p(11.5pc)|]
    \NC \REF[c]{1[4].341||345 [= F21.82||86]} \NC\REF[c]{6.29.3||4} \NC\SR
    \NC Text A\note[a]                        \NC Text B\note[b]    \NC\SR
   \NC \input knuth                        \NC 	\NC\AR
  \NC                         \NC \input knuth	\NC\AR
      \NC \input knuth                        \NC 	\NC\AR
    \stoptable
    \stopframedtext}
   {\footnotetext[a]{A local footnote.}
    \footnotetext[b]{Another local footnote.}
    \hskip2pc\mbox{\placelocalfootnotes}}
 \stoplocalfootnotes}

\stop

\stoptext

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Re: local footnote (Tables) problem

[Taco Hoekwater]

Bowen Alan C. wrote:
> Please excuse my persistence. The following is a minimal file
> illustrating a problem that I am having with a multipage table with
> local footnotes. Setting split=yes or split=repeat in \setuptables
> produces obviously unsatisfactory results. What I need is a multipage
> table that has good page divisions and puts the table's label on the
> last page only. I have been unable to find  documentation that would
> help with this yet.

My guess is that you should be using TABLE:

  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TABLE

it seems that TaBlE does not support splitting p() columns and
(iirc) TABLE does.

Best wishes,
Taco

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Re: local footnote (Tables) problem

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 23.11.2009 um 08:49 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:

> it seems that TaBlE does not support splitting p() columns and
> (iirc) TABLE does.

TABLE doesn't (each cell is a \framed) but tabulate does

Wolfgang

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Re: local footnote (Tables) problem

[Bowen Alan C.]

Wolfgang—

Using tabulate does seem, to help: I still get odd labeling and a no page break.

\showframe

\starttext

\dorecurse{3}{\input knuth\par}

\start

\setuptabulate
[bodyfont=9pt,
width=\textwidth,
rulethickness=0.03em,
distance=big,
split=yes,
header=repeat]

\placetable
[split, top,nonumber]
[tab:Table03]
{Table 3}
{\startlocalfootnotes[conversion=character,bodyfont=9pt]
\placelegend
{\startframedtext[frame=off,offset=none,width=fit]
  \starttabulatehead
   \HL
   \NC {Column A} \NC {Column B} \NC\SR
   \HL
   \stoptabulatehead
   \starttabulate[|p(11.5pc)|p(11.5pc)|]
   \NC {1[4].341||345 [= F21.82||86]} \NC{6.29.3||4} \NC\SR
   \NC Text A\note[a]                        \NC Text B\note[b]    \NC\SR
  \NC \input knuth                        \NC 	\NC\AR
 \NC                         \NC \input knuth	\NC\AR
     \NC \input knuth                        \NC 	\NC\AR
   \stoptabulate
   \stopframedtext}
  {\footnotetext[a]{A local footnote.}
   \footnotetext[b]{Another local footnote.}
   \hskip2pc\mbox{\placelocalfootnotes}
	}
\stoplocalfootnotes}

\stop

\stoptext

On Nov 23, 2009, at 02;51,46 , Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> 
> Am 23.11.2009 um 08:49 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:
> 
>> it seems that TaBlE does not support splitting p() columns and
>> (iirc) TABLE does.
> 
> TABLE doesn't (each cell is a \framed) but tabulate does
> 
> Wolfgang
> 
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Re: local footnote (Tables) problem

[Bowen Alan C.]

Wolfgang—

I have switched the minimal example to tabulate. The problem is that this entails little progress because I can find no documentation that explains
(a) how to format (e.g., center) the content of specific cells---\REF does not seem to work any more.
(b) how to get weighted rules---\HL[3] no longer works
(c) how to avoid getting the label for the table on the first page
(d) how to get a decent page break.
I have checked Hans' MAPs article as we all as the wiki. There is reference to a new tabulate module that you were working on, but the link goes nowhere.

I can work around (a) and (b) if I have to, but (c) and (d) are crucial.

Alan


\showframe

\starttext

\dorecurse{3}{\input knuth\par}

\start

\setuptabulate
[bodyfont=9pt,
width=\textwidth,
rulethickness=0.03em,
distance=big,
split=yes
header=repeat]

\placetable
[split, top,nonumber]
[tab:Table03]
{Table 3}
{\startlocalfootnotes[conversion=character,bodyfont=9pt]
\placelegend
{\startframedtext[frame=off,offset=none,width=fit]
  \starttabulatehead
   \HL
   \NC {Column A} \NC {Column B} \NC\SR
   \HL
   \stoptabulatehead
   \starttabulate[|p(11.5pc)|p(11.5pc)|]
   \NC {1[4].341||345 [= F21.82||86]} \NC{6.29.3||4} \NC\SR
   \NC Text A\note[a]                        \NC Text B\note[b]    \NC\SR
  \NC \input knuth                        \NC 	\NC\AR
 \NC                         \NC \input knuth	\NC\AR
     \NC \input knuth                        \NC 	\NC\AR
   \stoptabulate
   \stopframedtext}
  {\footnotetext[a]{A local footnote.}
   \footnotetext[b]{Another local footnote.}
   \hskip2pc\mbox{\placelocalfootnotes}}
\stoplocalfootnotes}

\stop

\stoptext

On Nov 23, 2009, at 02;51,46 , Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> 
> Am 23.11.2009 um 08:49 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:
> 
>> it seems that TaBlE does not support splitting p() columns and
>> (iirc) TABLE does.
> 
> TABLE doesn't (each cell is a \framed) but tabulate does
> 
> Wolfgang
> 
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
> 
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> wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
> ___________________________________________________________________________________

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Re: local footnote (Tables) problem

[Bowen Alan C.]

Wolfgang—

Using tabulate does seem, to help: I still get odd labeling and a no page break.

\showframe

\starttext

\dorecurse{3}{\input knuth\par}

\start

\setuptabulate
[bodyfont=9pt,
width=\textwidth,
rulethickness=0.03em,
distance=big,
split=yes,
header=repeat]

\placetable
[split, top,nonumber]
[tab:Table03]
{Table 3}
{\startlocalfootnotes[conversion=character,bodyfont=9pt]
\placelegend
{\startframedtext[frame=off,offset=none,width=fit]
 \starttabulatehead
  \HL
  \NC {Column A} \NC {Column B} \NC\SR
  \HL
  \stoptabulatehead
  \starttabulate[|p(11.5pc)|p(11.5pc)|]
  \NC {1[4].341||345 [= F21.82||86]} \NC{6.29.3||4} \NC\SR
  \NC Text A\note[a]                        \NC Text B\note[b]    \NC\SR
 \NC \input knuth                        \NC 	\NC\AR
\NC                         \NC \input knuth	\NC\AR
    \NC \input knuth                        \NC 	\NC\AR
  \stoptabulate
  \stopframedtext}
 {\footnotetext[a]{A local footnote.}
  \footnotetext[b]{Another local footnote.}
  \hskip2pc\mbox{\placelocalfootnotes}
	}
\stoplocalfootnotes}

\stop

\stoptext

On Nov 23, 2009, at 02;51,46 , Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> 
> Am 23.11.2009 um 08:49 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:
> 
>> it seems that TaBlE does not support splitting p() columns and
>> (iirc) TABLE does.
> 
> TABLE doesn't (each cell is a \framed) but tabulate does
> 
> Wolfgang
> 
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
> 
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> wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
> ___________________________________________________________________________________

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Fwd: local footnote (Tables) problem

[Bowen Alan C.]

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I apologize to the list for the second message. My keyboard and trackpad have gone sticky and unpredictable, and I misfired.

The message below (the first message) is the one that I wanted to send. Please ignore the second.

A.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Bowen Alan C. <acbowen@Princeton.EDU>
> Date: 11 23, 2009 17:26:37 EST
> To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] local footnote (Tables) problem
> 
> Wolfgang—
> 
> I have switched the minimal example to tabulate. The problem is that this entails little progress because I can find no documentation that explains
> (a) how to format (e.g., center) the content of specific cells---\REF does not seem to work any more.
> (b) how to get weighted rules---\HL[3] no longer works
> (c) how to avoid getting the label for the table on the first page
> (d) how to get a decent page break.
> I have checked Hans' MAPs article as we all as the wiki. There is reference to a new tabulate module that you were working on, but the link goes nowhere.
> 
> I can work around (a) and (b) if I have to, but (c) and (d) are crucial.
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> \showframe
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \dorecurse{3}{\input knuth\par}
> 
> \start
> 
> \setuptabulate
> [bodyfont=9pt,
> width=\textwidth,
> rulethickness=0.03em,
> distance=big,
> split=yes
> header=repeat]
> 
> \placetable
> [split, top,nonumber]
> [tab:Table03]
> {Table 3}
> {\startlocalfootnotes[conversion=character,bodyfont=9pt]
> \placelegend
> {\startframedtext[frame=off,offset=none,width=fit]
>  \starttabulatehead
>   \HL
>   \NC {Column A} \NC {Column B} \NC\SR
>   \HL
>   \stoptabulatehead
>   \starttabulate[|p(11.5pc)|p(11.5pc)|]
>   \NC {1[4].341||345 [= F21.82||86]} \NC{6.29.3||4} \NC\SR
>   \NC Text A\note[a]                        \NC Text B\note[b]    \NC\SR
>  \NC \input knuth                        \NC 	\NC\AR
> \NC                         \NC \input knuth	\NC\AR
>     \NC \input knuth                        \NC 	\NC\AR
>   \stoptabulate
>   \stopframedtext}
>  {\footnotetext[a]{A local footnote.}
>   \footnotetext[b]{Another local footnote.}
>   \hskip2pc\mbox{\placelocalfootnotes}}
> \stoplocalfootnotes}
> 
> \stop
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> On Nov 23, 2009, at 02;51,46 , Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Am 23.11.2009 um 08:49 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:
>> 
>>> it seems that TaBlE does not support splitting p() columns and
>>> (iirc) TABLE does.
>> 
>> TABLE doesn't (each cell is a \framed) but tabulate does
>> 
>> Wolfgang
>> 
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
>> 
>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>> webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
>> archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
>> wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> 


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