* [NTG-context] [ imposition schemas ]
@ 2024-11-20 21:25 vm via ntg-context
2024-11-24 11:46 ` [NTG-context] " Bruce Horrocks
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From: vm via ntg-context @ 2024-11-20 21:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: vm
Due to the sheer amount of possibilities combined with my current lack
of full understanding how parameters work, what would be the (simple)
way to layout an existing pdf containing A5 pages in to groups of
booklets different from all or 4 A4 sheets each (32 pages of the pdf)
e.g. the 2*2*4 does generate a booklets containing 4 sheets with 16 pages.
Is there a way to change the number of sheets to bundles of 5 or 8 ?
.F
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* [NTG-context] Re: [ imposition schemas ]
2024-11-20 21:25 [NTG-context] [ imposition schemas ] vm via ntg-context
@ 2024-11-24 11:46 ` Bruce Horrocks
2024-11-24 14:45 ` vm via ntg-context
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From: Bruce Horrocks @ 2024-11-24 11:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> On 20 Nov 2024, at 21:25, vm via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>
> Due to the sheer amount of possibilities combined with my current lack of full understanding how parameters work, what would be the (simple) way to layout an existing pdf containing A5 pages in to groups of booklets different from all or 4 A4 sheets each (32 pages of the pdf)
>
> e.g. the 2*2*4 does generate a booklets containing 4 sheets with 16 pages.
> Is there a way to change the number of sheets to bundles of 5 or 8 ?
I see there are no answers yet so I’ll ask some questions on things that have been confusing me, and possibly others, and maybe you’ll get an answer.
Q1: When you say “an existing PDF containing A5 pages” do you mean (a) a PDF created using Context that is set for A5 but could be re-run through Context using different \setuppapersize settings to achieve what you want, or (b) it is literally an existing PDF, possibly produced by something other than Context, and you want to extract the pages and re-arrange them into a booklet? If so, what is to happen with page numbers?
I ask because the two solutions would be quite different.
Q2: I don’t understand what you mean by “different from all” in the phrase “in to groups of booklets different from all”. Do you mean into groups of pages that can be folded into a “booklet” that can be bound with the others, i.e. a signature? If so, do you want those output into separate PDFs or in one so the first 8 pages, say, form one signature, the next 8 for the next and so on?
Q3: I don’t know of a way to change the number of pages but how would bundles of 5 work since it is not a multiple of 4?
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* [NTG-context] Re: [ imposition schemas ]
2024-11-24 11:46 ` [NTG-context] " Bruce Horrocks
@ 2024-11-24 14:45 ` vm via ntg-context
2024-11-25 0:55 ` Bruce Horrocks
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From: vm via ntg-context @ 2024-11-24 14:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Horrocks, ntg-context mailing list; +Cc: vm
On 24/11/2024 12:46, Bruce Horrocks wrote:
> Q3: I don’t know of a way to change the number of pages but how would bundles of 5 work since it is not a multiple of 4?
You'd combine a number of A4 sheets (each with 4 pages) into stacks.
The source for the imposition is a pdf containing A5 pages.
The [2*2*4] scheme generates multiple katernen (stacks) of 4 sheets.
Each sheet containing 4 pages per A4.
The katern contains 4*4 pages.
Instead of stacks of 4 (4*4=16 pages per stack) where then katernen will
number from 1..16, 17.32, ...
I'd like to combine 5 (5*4=20) pages per stack) 1..20, 21..40, ...
or 6 (6*4=24) etc
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* [NTG-context] Re: [ imposition schemas ]
2024-11-24 14:45 ` vm via ntg-context
@ 2024-11-25 0:55 ` Bruce Horrocks
2024-11-25 1:00 ` Bruce Horrocks
2024-11-25 2:26 ` vm via ntg-context
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From: Bruce Horrocks @ 2024-11-25 0:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: vm; +Cc: ntg-context mailing list
On 24 Nov 2024, at 14:45, vm <vm@klankschap.nl> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 24/11/2024 12:46, Bruce Horrocks wrote:
>> Q3: I don’t know of a way to change the number of pages but how would bundles of 5 work since it is not a multiple of 4?
>
> You'd combine a number of A4 sheets (each with 4 pages) into stacks.
>
> The source for the imposition is a pdf containing A5 pages.
>
> The [2*2*4] scheme generates multiple katernen (stacks) of 4 sheets.
> Each sheet containing 4 pages per A4.
> The katern contains 4*4 pages.
>
> Instead of stacks of 4 (4*4=16 pages per stack) where then katernen will number from 1..16, 17.32, ...
>
> I'd like to combine 5 (5*4=20) pages per stack) 1..20, 21..40, ...
> or 6 (6*4=24) etc
I see. The following will give you 20 pages per stack. To get 24 you’ll need to create \arrangedpageK and add it in following the same pattern as A-J.
%D Section of 40 pages: 5 sheets, 2 pages front and backside
%D Coding: [2*2*5]
\newbox\arrangedpageI \newbox\arrangedpageJ
\installpagearrangement 2*2*5
{\dosetuparrangement{2}{1}{20}{0}{0}% X,Y,Total,hcutmarks,vcutmarks
\pusharrangedpageTWOTWOFIVE\poparrangedpagesAtoJ/pop\relax}
\permanent\protected\def\pusharrangedpageTWOTWOFIVE#1%
{\advancearrangedpageN
\reportarrangedpage\arrangedpageN
\ifcase\arrangedpageN
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}010\arrangedpageA % 1 rot,hskip,vskip
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}000\arrangedpageB % 2
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}010\arrangedpageC % 3
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}000\arrangedpageD % 4
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}010\arrangedpageE % 5
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}000\arrangedpageF % 6
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}010\arrangedpageG % 7
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}000\arrangedpageH % 8
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}010\arrangedpageI % 9
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}000\arrangedpageJ % 10
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}010\arrangedpageJ % 11
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}000\arrangedpageI % 12
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}010\arrangedpageH % 13
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}000\arrangedpageG % 14
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}010\arrangedpageF % 15
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}000\arrangedpageE % 16
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}010\arrangedpageD % 17
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}000\arrangedpageC % 18
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}010\arrangedpageB % 19
\or \handlearrangedpageXandY{#1}000\arrangedpageA % 20
\poparrangedpages
\fi}
\permanent\protected\def\poparrangedpagesAtoJ
{\ifnum\arrangedpageN>\zerocount
\paperwidth\arrangedpageX\paperwidth
\paperheight\arrangedpageY\paperheight
\outputarrangedbox\arrangedpageA
\outputarrangedbox\arrangedpageB
\outputarrangedbox\arrangedpageC
\outputarrangedbox\arrangedpageD
\outputarrangedbox\arrangedpageE
\outputarrangedbox\arrangedpageF
\outputarrangedbox\arrangedpageG
\outputarrangedbox\arrangedpageH
\outputarrangedbox\arrangedpageI
\outputarrangedbox\arrangedpageJ
\global\arrangedpageN\zerocount
\fi}
\def\Schema{2*2*5}
\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
% the schema being tested
\setuparranging [\Schema]
% Visuals
\setupbodyfont[ss,14pt]
\setuplayout [margin=0pt, width=fit, header=2.8ex, footer=2.8ex]
\setupalign[middle,hilo]
\setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided,location=footer]
\setupheadertexts[\CONTEXT\ imposition test]
%\showframe
\setupbackgrounds [text][text][background=color,backgroundcolor=lightgray]
\setuplayout [location=middle,marking=off]
\startbuffer[Fakepage]
\strut
\blank
\bold{[\Schema]}
\vfill
This is page \recurselevel
\vfill
\stopbuffer
\starttext
\dorecurse{40}{\getbuffer[Fakepage]\page}
\stoptext
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* [NTG-context] Re: [ imposition schemas ]
2024-11-25 0:55 ` Bruce Horrocks
@ 2024-11-25 1:00 ` Bruce Horrocks
2024-11-25 2:26 ` vm via ntg-context
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From: Bruce Horrocks @ 2024-11-25 1:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context mailing list
> On 25 Nov 2024, at 00:55, Bruce Horrocks <ntg@scorecrow.com> wrote:
>
> %D Section of 40 pages: 5 sheets, 2 pages front and backside
Sorry, typo in the first comment. It should read
%D Section of 20 pages: 5 sheets, 2 pages front and backside
The functionality isn't affected but might be confusing if not noted.
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Bruce Horrocks
Hampshire, UK
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* [NTG-context] Re: [ imposition schemas ]
2024-11-25 0:55 ` Bruce Horrocks
2024-11-25 1:00 ` Bruce Horrocks
@ 2024-11-25 2:26 ` vm via ntg-context
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From: vm via ntg-context @ 2024-11-25 2:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bruce Horrocks; +Cc: ntg-context mailing list, vm
On 25/11/2024 01:55, Bruce Horrocks wrote:
> I see. The following will give you 20 pages per stack. To get 24 you’ll need to create \arrangedpageK and add it in following the same pattern as A-J.
thanks
.F
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