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From: Hans Hagen via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Cc: Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: no looseness in LMTX?
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 14:07:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7cd2bfc6-1ec2-a3fe-c501-4a1a431c4b28@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <69E038E3-D5AC-47A0-A4B3-3557312A4CF8@fiee.net>

On 9/7/2021 11:49 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
> In my magazine and book projects, I sometimes fix pagebreaking by stretching paragraphs with \looseness=1
> 
> Unfortunately this works _in my project_ only with MkIV, i.e. \looseness has no effect with LMTX.
> 
> I tried different examples (e.g. the attached file) and can’t reproduce the problem, there MkIV and LMTX always behave the same.
> So it must be something in my settings.
> 
> What could cause the difference?
> I tried English and German and different settings of alignment and tolerance.
> Might it be font dependent?

explained in manuals ...

\startlinenumbering
\startparagraph
Weit .. beirren.
\stopparagraph
\stoplinenumbering

\startlinenumbering
\startparagraph\looseness=+2
Weit .. beirren.
\stopparagraph
\stoplinenumbering

\startlinenumbering
\startparagraph
Weit .. beirren.
\looseness=+2\updateparagraphproperties\stopparagraph
\stoplinenumbering

in lmxt we freeze the properties set when a paragraph starts (contrary 
to using the last set value which actually fails when you set it inside 
a group)

so, when you change some property mid paragraph you need to update the 
properties in order for them to be effective (can be done for looseness 
only if really needed); that works independent of grouping so it's more 
robust

so .. it's all about more control

Hans


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-09-07 12:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-07  9:49 Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
2021-09-07 11:15 ` Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context
2021-09-07 13:13   ` Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
2021-09-07 13:27     ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2021-09-07 12:07 ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context [this message]
2021-09-07 12:57   ` Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context

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