ePub issues: XML structure

ePub issues: XML structure

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Not only Hans van der Meer is producing (or trying to produce) ePubs at the moment; I reviewed my XSLT workflow (https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Epub_Sample) since my publisher colleagues and our distributor aren’t happy about just publishing PDFs as eBooks.

While the first book in a series of four is now ready with a lot of manual corrections, in the second one the XML structure is messed up: the chapter title structure comes only after the chapter content, and index entry tags are empty with the actual entry behind like this:

<paragraph>Ein sentimentales Rührstück ist <highlight detail="emph">Rico, Oskar und die Tieferschatten</highlight> dennoch nicht. Die beiden Hauptdarsteller <registerlocation detail="index" internal="396"></registerlocation>Anton Petzold (Rico) und <registerlocation detail="index" internal="397"></registerlocation>Juri Winkler (Oskar) füllen ihre Rollen ganz wunderbar aus...</paragraph>

In ConTeXt code I marked the actors with
\def\NPers#1#2{\index{#2, #1}#1 #2}
as \NPers{Anton}{Petzold}.

But since that just uses \index, the XML tag should catch the contents, don’t you think?

I’ll come up with a MWE; don’t know if I’ll manage to reproduce the title/contents mixup though. The other book’s export is ok within the same project. It uses the same environment, but a slightly differing chapter setup. Any hints which setting could cause the re-ordering? (And I use \startchapter … \stopchapter of course.)

Best, Hraban
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Re: ePub issues: XML structure

[Hans Hagen]

On 3/4/2020 7:55 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Not only Hans van der Meer is producing (or trying to produce) ePubs at the moment; I reviewed my XSLT workflow (https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Epub_Sample) since my publisher colleagues and our distributor aren’t happy about just publishing PDFs as eBooks.
> 
> While the first book in a series of four is now ready with a lot of manual corrections, in the second one the XML structure is messed up: the chapter title structure comes only after the chapter content, and index entry tags are empty with the actual entry behind like this:
> 
> <paragraph>Ein sentimentales Rührstück ist <highlight detail="emph">Rico, Oskar und die Tieferschatten</highlight> dennoch nicht. Die beiden Hauptdarsteller <registerlocation detail="index" internal="396"></registerlocation>Anton Petzold (Rico) und <registerlocation detail="index" internal="397"></registerlocation>Juri Winkler (Oskar) füllen ihre Rollen ganz wunderbar aus...</paragraph>
> 
> In ConTeXt code I marked the actors with
> \def\NPers#1#2{\index{#2, #1}#1 #2}
> as \NPers{Anton}{Petzold}.
> 
> But since that just uses \index, the XML tag should catch the contents, don’t you think?
> 
> I’ll come up with a MWE; don’t know if I’ll manage to reproduce the title/contents mixup though. The other book’s export is ok within the same project. It uses the same environment, but a slightly differing chapter setup. Any hints which setting could cause the re-ordering? (And I use \startchapter … \stopchapter of course.)
personally id i'd want an export i'd use a mode where i turn off all 
kind of fancy formatting

at some time i might even split off the export in the sense that when 
enabled some other layout features get disabled (for instance: when you 
make a chapter title setup that completely decouples the order, e.g. put 
it on some layer, you can't expect an export to work: export doesn't 
look at the input, it works with the output and reconstructs from that)

Hans


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Re: ePub issues: XML structure

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

> Am 2020-03-04 um 07:55 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <hraban@fiee.net>:
> 
> While the first book in a series of four is now ready with a lot of manual corrections, in the second one the XML structure is messed up: the chapter title structure comes only after the chapter content, and index entry tags are empty with the actual entry behind like this:
> 
> <paragraph>Ein sentimentales Rührstück ist <highlight detail="emph">Rico, Oskar und die Tieferschatten</highlight> dennoch nicht. Die beiden Hauptdarsteller <registerlocation detail="index" internal="396"></registerlocation>Anton Petzold (Rico) und <registerlocation detail="index" internal="397"></registerlocation>Juri Winkler (Oskar) füllen ihre Rollen ganz wunderbar aus...</paragraph>
> 
> In ConTeXt code I marked the actors with
> \def\NPers#1#2{\index{#2, #1}#1 #2}
> as \NPers{Anton}{Petzold}.
> 
> But since that just uses \index, the XML tag should catch the contents, don’t you think?

Coming back to this. I recognized that of course the name behind </registerlocation> is completely correct and according to my definition of \NPers.
But the content of \index (here: "Petzold, Anton") is still missing, while the command creates this <registerlocation> structure.

Since you (Hans) say the export only looks at the output, then it makes sense that is empty, since there’s nothing to see.

Actually my XSLT already looks for the <registerentry>:

<registerentry>
<registercontent>Petzold, Anton</registercontent>
<registerpages><registerpage><link destination="internal(396)" location="396" prefix="c_anhang">76</link></registerpage><registerseparator>,</registerseparator><registerpage><link destination="internal(406)" location="406" prefix="c_anhang">77</link></registerpage></registerpages>
</registerentry>

And the lookup actually works, so I don’t know why I’m complaining. Didn’t understand my own workflow any more.

Now to solve the title structure mystery…


Best, Hraban
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Re: ePub issues: XML structure

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Hi Axel,
will I meet you by chance at the DANTE in Lübeck?

In that case it would be nice if you could assist me with my "ConTeXt for beginners workshop" to tell something about Lua & XML.

Greetlings, Hraban
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Re: ePub issues: XML structure

[Axel Kielhorn]

> Am 11.03.2020 um 20:59 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
> 
> Hi Axel,
> will I meet you by chance at the DANTE in Lübeck?
> 
> In that case it would be nice if you could assist me with my "ConTeXt for beginners workshop" to tell something about Lua & XML.
> 
> Greetlings, Hraban

Actually your workshop is the reason I plan to attend the meeting.

I hope Corona does not interfere.

Greetling[1], Axel

[1] There are no Tikzgreetlings, as far as I know.


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Re: ePub issues: XML structure

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

> Am 2020-03-11 um 22:42 schrieb Axel Kielhorn <tex@axelkielhorn.de>:
> 
>> Am 11.03.2020 um 20:59 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
>> 
>> Hi Axel,
>> will I meet you by chance at the DANTE in Lübeck?
>> 
>> In that case it would be nice if you could assist me with my "ConTeXt for beginners workshop" to tell something about Lua & XML.
>> 
>> Greetlings, Hraban
> 
> Actually your workshop is the reason I plan to attend the meeting.

Nice to hear, you’re welcome!

> I hope Corona does not interfere.

me too! Yesterday the DANTE board wrote they’re still considering.
Well, my bed is paid for, and won’t get refunded.

> Greetling[1], Axel
> 
> [1] There are no Tikzgreetlings, as far as I know.

;)
While I got used to TikZ in a LaTeX project, I’m not very fond of TikZlings (funny, but not as funny as their creators seem to deem them).

(My greetlings are just a translation of the “Grüßlinge” that we used in one of my youth groups. I’m fading them out.)

Best, Hraban
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Re: ePub issues: XML structure

[Axel Kielhorn]

> Am 12.03.2020 um 08:09 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
> 
>> Am 2020-03-11 um 22:42 schrieb Axel Kielhorn <tex@axelkielhorn.de>:
>> 
>> Actually your workshop is the reason I plan to attend the meeting.
> 
> Nice to hear, you’re welcome!

As a preparation I have updated my german intro at:

https://github.com/AKielhorn/Context-Intro

> 
>> I hope Corona does not interfere.
> 
> me too! Yesterday the DANTE board wrote they’re still considering.
> Well, my bed is paid for, and won’t get refunded.

We’ll see.

Greetings Axel

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