* inactive -- and ---
@ 2005-11-20 12:12 Henning Hraban Ramm
2005-11-20 12:29 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2005-11-20 12:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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%
% Typescript for serif family sil gentium
% written by install-font.pl (copyleft Henning Hraban Ramm)
% adapted 2004-08-23, 2005-11-20
%
% Write in your TeX file something like:
% \usetypescriptfile [type-sil-gentium]
% \usetypescript [fiee][sil-gentium]
% \setupbodyfont [sil-gentium, rm, 12pt]
% \setupbodyfontenvironment [default] [em=italic]
% (install-font supports no slanted fonts, but they are default in ConTeXt)
% source of the font: http://scripts.sil.org/Gentium
% the alternate font seems to change only some diacritics
% load mapfile
\starttypescript [map] [gentium] [\defaultencoding]
\loadmapfile [\defaultencoding-sil-gentium.map]
\stoptypescript
% serif sil gentium
\starttypescript [serif] [gentium,gentium-alt] [\defaultencoding]
\definefontsynonym [GentiumAlt-Italic] [\defaultencoding-genai101] [encoding=\defaultencoding]
\definefontsynonym [GentiumAlt] [\defaultencoding-genar101] [encoding=\defaultencoding]
\definefontsynonym [Gentium-Italic] [\defaultencoding-geni101] [encoding=\defaultencoding]
\definefontsynonym [Gentium] [\defaultencoding-genr101] [encoding=\defaultencoding]
\stoptypescript
% serif gentium
\starttypescript [serif] [gentium] [name]
\setups [font:fallback:serif]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [Gentium]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [Gentium-Italic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldAlt] [SerifItalic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [SerifItalic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifCaps] [SerifItalic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldCaps] [SerifItalic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifAlt] [GentiumAlt]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalicAlt] [GentiumAlt-Italic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifOldstyle] [SerifAlt]
% unfortunately you need to define eight synonyms to handle the fallback cases:
\definefontsynonym [SerifRegular] [Serif]
\definefontsynonym [SerifRegularAlt] [SerifAlt]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldAlt] [SerifAlt]
\definefontsynonym [SerifCapsAlt] [SerifAlt]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalicAlt] [SerifItalicAlt]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSlantedAlt] [SerifItalicAlt]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalicAlt] [SerifItalicAlt]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldSlantedAlt] [SerifItalicAlt]
% markup of \Var[alt] results in a (subtle) font switch:
\definefontvariant [Serif] [alt] [Alt]
\stoptypescript
% serif gentium
\starttypescript [serif] [gentium-alt] [name]
\setups [font:fallback:serif]
\usetypescript [serif] [gentium] [\defaultencoding]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [GentiumAlt]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [GentiumAlt-Italic]
\stoptypescript
% sample family definition
\starttypescript [fiee] [sil-gentium]
\definetypeface [sil-gentium] [rm] [serif] [gentium] [default] [encoding=\defaultencoding]
\definetypeface [sil-gentium] [ss] [sans] [default] [default] [encoding=\defaultencoding]
\definetypeface [sil-gentium] [tt] [mono] [default] [default] [encoding=\defaultencoding]
\definetypeface [sil-gentium] [mm] [math] [default] [default] [encoding=\defaultencoding]
\stoptypescript
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I'm just trying to modernize and enhance my old typescripts and
reckognized that -- and --- become inactive (i.e. don't become endash
and emdash, but stay dashes) with the SIL Gentium font (or at least
with my typescript).
How can that happen? And what can I do?
I'm using the latest gwTeX (ConTeXt 2005-11-17). The typescript is
attached, but I don't think the bug is in there...
Grüßlis vom Hraban!
---
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http://contextgarden.net
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* Re: inactive -- and ---
2005-11-20 12:12 inactive -- and --- Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2005-11-20 12:29 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2005-11-20 13:14 ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2005-11-20 12:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hraban,
AFAIK, -- and --- aren't active, but they (should) produce ligatures,
so the problem is most probably at the level of the tfms you
produced. How did you obtain them? By running texfont? Which encoding
are you using?
Thomas
On Nov 20, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> <type-sil-gentium.tex>
> I'm just trying to modernize and enhance my old typescripts and
> reckognized that -- and --- become inactive (i.e. don't become
> endash and emdash, but stay dashes) with the SIL Gentium font (or
> at least with my typescript).
>
> How can that happen? And what can I do?
>
> I'm using the latest gwTeX (ConTeXt 2005-11-17). The typescript is
> attached, but I don't think the bug is in there...
>
>
> Grüßlis vom Hraban!
> ---
> http://www.fiee.net/texnique/
> http://contextgarden.net
> http://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)
>
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* Re: inactive -- and ---
2005-11-20 12:29 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2005-11-20 13:14 ` Taco Hoekwater
2005-11-20 13:55 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2005-11-20 13:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> Hraban,
>
> AFAIK, -- and --- aren't active, but they (should) produce ligatures,
> so the problem is most probably at the level of the tfms you produced.
> How did you obtain them? By running texfont? Which encoding are you using?
\defaultencoding expands to 'ec' these days (used to be 'texnansi').
Perhaps that is the problem?
Taco
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* Re: inactive -- and ---
2005-11-20 13:14 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2005-11-20 13:55 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2005-11-20 22:43 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2005-11-20 13:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
I just looked into font conversion for another project. In EC.enc,
you have this line:
% LIGKERN hyphen hyphen =: endash ; endash hyphen =: emdash ;
so fonts converted by texfont and using --enc=ec should have the
dashes enabled automagically. The problem I had was with the f-
ligatures, I had to manually add these lines:
% LIGKERN f f =: ff ; f i =: fi ; f l =: fl ;
% LIGKERN ff f =: fff ; ff i =: ffi ; ff l =: ffl ;
In general, texnansi still seems to be doing a better job with this
sort of thing. The ligkern instructions are not mentioned explicitly
in texnansi.enc, but they are still used, so I assume texfont has
them hardwired into its own code somewhere. May be Adam knows more
about it?
Best
Thomas
On Nov 20, 2005, at 2:14 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>> Hraban,
>> AFAIK, -- and --- aren't active, but they (should) produce
>> ligatures, so the problem is most probably at the level of the
>> tfms you produced. How did you obtain them? By running texfont?
>> Which encoding are you using?
>
> \defaultencoding expands to 'ec' these days (used to be 'texnansi').
> Perhaps that is the problem?
>
> Taco
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* Re: inactive -- and ---
2005-11-20 13:55 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2005-11-20 22:43 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2005-11-23 11:20 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2005-11-20 22:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>> AFAIK, -- and --- aren't active, but they (should) produce
>>>> ligatures, so the problem is most probably at the level of the
>>>> tfms you produced. How did you obtain them? By running texfont?
>>>> Which encoding are you using?
>>> \defaultencoding expands to 'ec' these days (used to be 'texnansi').
>>> Perhaps that is the problem?
> so fonts converted by texfont and using --enc=ec should have the
> dashes enabled automagically.
> ...
> In general, texnansi still seems to be doing a better job with this
> sort of thing. The ligkern instructions are not mentioned
> explicitly in texnansi.enc, but they are still used, so I assume
> texfont has them hardwired into its own code somewhere. May be Adam
> knows more about it?
Thank you.
I'm using ec, but tried also texnansi without changes.
The TFMs are generated by texfont, but long ago; I should try to re-
generate them.
Other fonts have no problems.
endash and emdash are defined in the texfont-generated AFMs (original
is TTF); I can't read TFM...
Grüßlis vom Hraban!
---
http://www.fiee.net/texnique/
http://contextgarden.net
http://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)
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* Re: inactive -- and ---
2005-11-20 22:43 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2005-11-23 11:20 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2005-11-23 11:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hraban,
you can't read tfm, but have you tried converting them to pl? That's
a format you can read... And you probably have a pair of vf and tfm
files, so you could and should convert to vpl.
Best
Thomas
On Nov 20, 2005, at 11:43 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Thank you.
> I'm using ec, but tried also texnansi without changes.
> The TFMs are generated by texfont, but long ago; I should try to re-
> generate them.
> Other fonts have no problems.
> endash and emdash are defined in the texfont-generated AFMs
> (original is TTF); I can't read TFM...
>
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