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[77.191.138.40]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b5sm10854103eew.16.2013.04.17.12.03.05 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Apr 2013 12:03:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <069FBD85-2508-4078-8CE1-9BC308DF428C@uva.nl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0006 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2a00:1450:4013:c01::232; country=IE X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 03Jp736h5 - f93ee3fa494c - 20130417 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:81881 Archived-At: --===============1227601379== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A4A91AF0-E9F1-4F9D-87D0-63A5CC867ACA" --Apple-Mail=_A4A91AF0-E9F1-4F9D-87D0-63A5CC867ACA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Am 17.04.2013 um 20:46 schrieb "Meer, H. van der" : > I find this setup stuff bewildering. My last posting is concerning the = typesetting of the endnote numbering in both the text and the list at = the en dof the chapter. In the Reference Manual both textcommand and = numbercommand are treated in the same setup macro: \setupfootnotes on = page 94. But (with the help of your reply) I find now there are = different macros needed to set them up: >=20 > Needed for the text =3D \setupnotes[endnote][textcommand=3D\hifnmarker] > Needed for the list =3D = \setupnotation[endnote][numbercommand=3D\fnmarker] > \def\fnmarker#1{[#1]}\def\hifnmarker#1{\high{[#1]}} >=20 > Wolfgang Schuster just comes up with a similar solution: > \setupnote [endnote][textcommand=3D\groupedcommand{[}{]}] > \setupnotation[endnote][numbercommand=3D\groupedcommand{[}{]}] > Allthough the difference between \setupnote and \setupnotes alludes = me. >=20 > The \setupnotes does not handle the numbercommand, the \setupnotation = does not handle the textcommand. I find this split in behaviour = difficult to understand. May I plead for a unification here? Footnotes, endnotes etc. are processed in a two step mechanism. When = context reaches \footnote{=85} in the document it stores the content and = puts a number in the text, the style etc. of this number can be changed = with the \setupnote command. After the page is finished the collected notes for the current page are = inserted at the bottom of the page, at first this is only one big block = which contains all notes. The rule, font size etc, for this block can be = also changed with the \setupnote command. In this block the individual note texts are placed, the style etc. of = each note text can be changed with the \setupnotation command. Another point of notes are the counter and it=92s format which is also = changed with the \setupnotation command. Wolfgang --Apple-Mail=_A4A91AF0-E9F1-4F9D-87D0-63A5CC867ACA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 H.vanderMeer@uva.nl>:
I find this setup stuff bewildering. My last posting is concerning the = typesetting of the endnote numbering in both the text and the list at = the en dof the chapter. In the Reference Manual both textcommand and = numbercommand are treated in the same setup macro: \setupfootnotes on page 94. But (with the help of your reply) I = find now there are different macros needed to set them up:

Needed for the text =3D \setupnotes[endnote][textcommand=3D\hifnmarker]
Needed for the list =3D \setupnotation[endnote][numbercommand=3D\fnmarker]=
\def\fnmarker#1{[#1]}\def\hifnmarker#1{\high{[#1]}}

Wolfgang Schuster just comes up with a similar solution:
\setupnote =    [endnote][textcommand=3D\groupedcommand{[}{]}]
Allthough the difference between \setupnote and \setupnotes alludes = me.

The \setupnotes does not handle the numbercommand, the = \setupnotation does not handle the textcommand. I find this split in = behaviour difficult to understand. May I plead for a unification = here?

Footnotes, endnotes etc. are = processed in a two step mechanism. When context reaches \footnote{=85} = in the document it stores the content and puts a number in the text, the = style etc. of this number can be changed with the \setupnote = command.

After the page is finished the = collected notes for the current page are inserted at the bottom of the = page, at first this is only one big block which contains all notes. The = rule, font size etc, for this block can be also changed with the = \setupnote command.

In this block the = individual note texts are placed, the style etc. of each note text can = be changed with the \setupnotation = command.

Another point of notes are the counter = and it=92s format which is also changed with the \setupnotation = command.

Wolfgang

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