updates without rsync

updates without rsync

[richard.stephens]

Gentlemen and Ladies,

I am using ConTeXt on a company Windows PC behind two firewalls with no
possibility of accessing or changing the firewalls. I've tried to update
using the minimals installation and rsync, but nothing gets through. What
is the recommended method of updating to the latest ConTeXt when rsync is
not an option?

The last time I tried, I downloaded cont-tmf.zip from
http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm  and unzipped the contents to
overwrite everything in texmf-local. Is this still the best way?

Thanks.

Richard



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Re: updates without rsync

[Hans Hagen]

richard.stephens@converteam.com wrote:
> Gentlemen and Ladies,
> 
> I am using ConTeXt on a company Windows PC behind two firewalls with no
> possibility of accessing or changing the firewalls. I've tried to update
> using the minimals installation and rsync, but nothing gets through. What
> is the recommended method of updating to the latest ConTeXt when rsync is
> not an option?
> 
> The last time I tried, I downloaded cont-tmf.zip from
> http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm  and unzipped the contents to
> overwrite everything in texmf-local. Is this still the best way?

should work ok

- unzip in relevant tree
- mktexlsr
- luatools --generate
- luatools --selfupdate
- mtxrun   --selfupdate
- texexec --make (for mkii)
- context --make (for mkiv)

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Re: updates without rsync

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:23,  <richard.stephens@converteam.com> wrote:
>
> Gentlemen and Ladies,
>
> I am using ConTeXt on a company Windows PC behind two firewalls with no
> possibility of accessing or changing the firewalls. I've tried to update
> using the minimals installation and rsync, but nothing gets through. What
> is the recommended method of updating to the latest ConTeXt when rsync is
> not an option?
>
> The last time I tried, I downloaded cont-tmf.zip from
> http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm  and unzipped the contents to
> overwrite everything in texmf-local. Is this still the best way?

If you use mkiv, you might need to update binaries as well.

Mojca
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Re: updates without rsync

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:23,  richard.stephens@converteam.com wrote:
>
> Gentlemen and Ladies,
>
> I am using ConTeXt on a company Windows PC behind two firewalls with no
> possibility of accessing or changing the firewalls. I've tried to update
> using the minimals installation and rsync, but nothing gets through. What
> is the recommended method of updating to the latest ConTeXt when rsync is
> not an option?
>
> The last time I tried, I downloaded cont-tmf.zip from
> http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm  and unzipped the contents to
> overwrite everything in texmf-local. Is this still the best way?

I have no time to explore myself for the next few months, but if
anyone comes up with a solution, I can fix it (if anything should be
fixed on server, but maybe fixing locally could be enough). There are
some online tutorials about how to circumvent firewall problems using
ssh tunelling.

http://forums.exabytes.com/linux-control-panel-cpanel/102-using-rsync-through-firewall.html
http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/firewall.html

On the other hand, the installer could detect a problem of "firewall"
or "network connection problem" and return some nicer error report
instead of trying to run rsync even after the first attempt has faild.

Mojca
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Re: updates without rsync

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Thursday 28 May 2009 21:36:38 Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> There are
> some online tutorials about how to circumvent firewall problems using
> ssh tunelling.
>
> http://forums.exabytes.com/linux-control-panel-cpanel/102-using-rsync-throu
>gh-firewall.html http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/firewall.html
>

I regularly use ssh tunnels to circumvent firewall problems.
Basically, it requires a few simple and readily available tools (ssh, nc).
For example (under linux), it can be as simple as setting up the file
$HOME/.ssh/config

Host contextgarden.net
        ProxyCommand nohup ssh firewall_host_name nc -w1 %h %p

Then,
rsync -e ssh -ptv rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh .
just works...
(This scheme requires nc [netcat] be available on the firewall)

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Re: updates without rsync

[Peter Münster]

On Thu, 28 May 2009, richard.stephens@converteam.com wrote:

> I am using ConTeXt on a company Windows PC behind two firewalls with no
> possibility of accessing or changing the firewalls. I've tried to update
> using the minimals installation and rsync, but nothing gets through. What
> is the recommended method of updating to the latest ConTeXt when rsync is
> not an option?

Perhaps this could be an easy option:
1.) install on PC with direct internet connection (no firewall problems)
2.) put the context directory on a usb-stick
3.) copy from usb-stick to PC behind firewall

If this is not possible, perhaps the firewall is open for http? Then
someone else with a Windows PC could prepare for you an archive and put it
on an http-server?

Cheers, Peter

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Re: updates without rsync

[Diego Depaoli]

2009/5/29 Peter Münster <pmlists@free.fr>:
> If this is not possible, perhaps the firewall is open for http? Then
> someone else with a Windows PC could prepare for you an archive and put it
> on an http-server?
Why not do it directly on minimals.contextgarden.net?

[OT - for binaries maintainer] Even sources should be packaged in a zip file.
After recent Mojca's changes I rsynced for a whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiile

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Re: updates without rsync

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 18:07, Diego Depaoli wrote:
> 2009/5/29 Peter Münster <pmlists@free.fr>:
>> If this is not possible, perhaps the firewall is open for http? Then
>> someone else with a Windows PC could prepare for you an archive and put it
>> on an http-server?
> Why not do it directly on minimals.contextgarden.net?

There are zips on http://minimals.contextgarden.net/pragma/, but one
still needs to fetch everything more or less manually (when there are
changes, one needs to fetch the whole zip).

Or what exactly would you like to see in that zip?

One thing that might be worth trying is to try to set a tunnel with
putty. From what I read I guess that it should work, but I have no
experience and no windows machine.

Mojca
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Re: updates without rsync

[Diego Depaoli]

2009/5/30 Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>:
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 18:07, Diego Depaoli wrote:
>> 2009/5/29 Peter Münster <pmlists@free.fr>:
>>> If this is not possible, perhaps the firewall is open for http? Then
>>> someone else with a Windows PC could prepare for you an archive and put it
>>> on an http-server?
>> Why not do it directly on minimals.contextgarden.net?
>
> There are zips on http://minimals.contextgarden.net/pragma/, but one
> still needs to fetch everything more or less manually (when there are
> changes, one needs to fetch the whole zip).
>
> Or what exactly would you like to see in that zip?
Up to date binaries.
W32tex's zipped files are an example.

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Re: updates without rsync

[richard.stephens]

> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:23,  <richard.stephens@converteam.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am using ConTeXt on a company Windows PC behind two firewalls with no
> > possibility of accessing or changing the firewalls. I've tried to
update
> > using the minimals installation and rsync, but nothing gets through.
What
> > is the recommended method of updating to the latest ConTeXt when rsync
is
> > not an option?
> >
> > The last time I tried, I downloaded cont-tmf.zip from
> > http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm  and unzipped the contents to
> > overwrite everything in texmf-local. Is this still the best way?

I've got myself in a terrible mess now! I downloaded cont-tmf.zip and
unzipped the contents, then tried to follow Hans' instructions, i.e.:
>    mktexlsr
>    luatools --generate
>    luatools --selfupdate
>    mtxrun   --selfupdate
>    texexec --make (for mkii)
>    context --make (for mkiv)

Unfortunately, none of these commands runs without errors! SO, I decided to
reinstall from scratch. That's where my problems really started!

I searched around the Wiki and found lots of pages on installation, but
none of them seem quite right.
I looked at  http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/minstall.pdf  but it
looks old and does not seem to relate to the stuff I've downloaded.

>From various places, I think I need to do the following, but some details
are missing:

1. Install Ruby
2. Install Perl
3. Download cont-tmf.zip and unzip contents to <installdir>
4. Set environment variables:
      OSFONTDIR = C:\WINDOWS\Fonts
      TEXMF = <installdir>\scripts\context\stubs\mswin
      TEXMFCACHE = C:\TEMP
      TEXMFCNF = <installdir>\web2c
      TEXMFOS = ??????
      others ????
5. From command window, run installation scripts:
      mktexlsr
      luatools --generate
      luatools --selfupdate
      mtxrun   --selfupdate
      texexec --make (for mkii)
      context --make (for mkiv)
6. To generate new pdf run:
      context --pdf  myfile.tex
7. Anything else I've missed ????

Thanks to all,

Richard



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Re: updates without rsync

[Hans Hagen]

richard.stephens@converteam.com wrote:

> 7. Anything else I've missed ????

in the pragma website there are snapshots of the minimals (just zipped 
garden minimals); you can take one of those a starting point and unzip 
the latest (beta) versions of context in texmf-context

further proceed as described on the wiki


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Re: updates without rsync

[richard.stephens]

Lutz Haseloff <lutz.haseloff@googlemail.com> wrote on 29/05/2009 11:04:55:

> Hi Richard,

>
> 1. Install Ruby
>
> right
>
>
> 2. Install Perl
>
> I think, Perl is not needed anymore.
>
> Download
http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/minimals-snapshot-mswin.zip
>
> I unzip it in c:\, you get c:\context\texmf-context and some more
directories
>
>
> 3. Download cont-tmf.zip and unzip contents to <installdir>
>
> make c:\context\texmf-context empty and unzip cont-tmf.zip into it
>
>
> 4. Set environment variables:
>      OSFONTDIR = C:\WINDOWS\Fonts
>      TEXMF = <installdir>\scripts\context\stubs\mswin
>      TEXMFCACHE = C:\TEMP
>      TEXMFCNF = <installdir>\web2c
>      TEXMFOS = ??????
>      others ????
>
> no, go to c:\context an run setuptex.bat
>
> I have an icon on my desktop with:
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe /K cd c:\context && .\setuptex.bat
>
>
> 5. From command window, run installation scripts:
>      mktexlsr
>      luatools --generate
>      luatools --selfupdate
>      mtxrun   --selfupdate
>      texexec --make (for mkii)
>      context --make (for mkiv)
>
> open a terminal window
> c: enter
> cd context enter
> setuptex enter
>
> the above commands should now work without errors

>
> 6. To generate new pdf run:
>      context --pdf  myfile.tex
>
> You have to run setuptex.bat in c:\context before you can compile
texfiles
>
> I automated this for the terminal and for the Scite Editor.
>
>
> 7. Anything else I've missed ????

> That should do it
>
> For updating luatex, download ftp://akagi.ms.u-tokyo.ac.
> jp/pub/TeX/win32/luatex-dev-w32.tar.bz2
> and unzip the files in bin into c:\context\texmf-mswin\bin.
> After that run context --make
>
>
> You're welcome
>
> Greetings Lutz

Thank-you very much for the above. Still a few problems though!

I have installed it to C:\tools\context. Everything goes well until
'mktexlsr' which returns:
 Cannot open C:/tools/context/texmf-project/ls-R to write.
 Cannot open C:/tools/context/texmf-fonts/ls-R to write.
 Cannot open C:/tools/context/texmf-extra/ls-R to write.
because the folders do not exist. So I've created empty folders just in
case and no more warnings!

Then all goes well until 'context --pdf myfile.tex' which returns:
 luatex.exe:
c:/tools/context/texmf-cache/tuatex-cache/b7bcb6722e1fe509b85ff004c33e8274/formats/cont-en.fmt:
 No such file or directory
 MtxRun | fatal error, code 1

and 'texexec --pdf myfile.tex' returns:
 c:\tools\context\texmf-mswin\bin\mtxrun.lua:8603: attempt to concatenate a
nil value

Any ideas?

Richard



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Re: updates without rsync

[Peter Rolf]

richard.stephens@converteam.com schrieb:
> Lutz Haseloff <lutz.haseloff@googlemail.com> wrote on 29/05/2009 11:04:55:
>
>   
>> Hi Richard,
>>     
>
>   
>> 1. Install Ruby
>>
>> right
>>
>>
>> 2. Install Perl
>>
>> I think, Perl is not needed anymore.
>>
>> Download
>>     
> http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/minimals-snapshot-mswin.zip
>   
>> I unzip it in c:\, you get c:\context\texmf-context and some more
>>     
> directories
>   
>> 3. Download cont-tmf.zip and unzip contents to <installdir>
>>
>> make c:\context\texmf-context empty and unzip cont-tmf.zip into it
>>
>>
>> 4. Set environment variables:
>>      OSFONTDIR = C:\WINDOWS\Fonts
>>      TEXMF = <installdir>\scripts\context\stubs\mswin
>>      TEXMFCACHE = C:\TEMP
>>      TEXMFCNF = <installdir>\web2c
>>      TEXMFOS = ??????
>>      others ????
>>
>> no, go to c:\context an run setuptex.bat
>>
>> I have an icon on my desktop with:
>> C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe /K cd c:\context && .\setuptex.bat
>>
>>
>> 5. From command window, run installation scripts:
>>      mktexlsr
>>      luatools --generate
>>      luatools --selfupdate
>>      mtxrun   --selfupdate
>>      texexec --make (for mkii)
>>      context --make (for mkiv)
>>
>> open a terminal window
>> c: enter
>> cd context enter
>> setuptex enter
>>
>> the above commands should now work without errors
>>     
>
>   
>> 6. To generate new pdf run:
>>      context --pdf  myfile.tex
>>
>> You have to run setuptex.bat in c:\context before you can compile
>>     
> texfiles
>   
>> I automated this for the terminal and for the Scite Editor.
>>
>>
>> 7. Anything else I've missed ????
>>     
>
>   
>> That should do it
>>
>> For updating luatex, download ftp://akagi.ms.u-tokyo.ac.
>> jp/pub/TeX/win32/luatex-dev-w32.tar.bz2
>> and unzip the files in bin into c:\context\texmf-mswin\bin.
>> After that run context --make
>>
>>
>> You're welcome
>>
>> Greetings Lutz
>>     
>
> Thank-you very much for the above. Still a few problems though!
>
> I have installed it to C:\tools\context. Everything goes well until
> 'mktexlsr' which returns:
>  Cannot open C:/tools/context/texmf-project/ls-R to write.
>  Cannot open C:/tools/context/texmf-fonts/ls-R to write.
>  Cannot open C:/tools/context/texmf-extra/ls-R to write.
> because the folders do not exist. So I've created empty folders just in
> case and no more warnings!
>
> Then all goes well until 'context --pdf myfile.tex' which returns:
>  luatex.exe:
> c:/tools/context/texmf-cache/tuatex-cache/b7bcb6722e1fe509b85ff004c33e8274/formats/cont-en.fmt:
>   
tuatex-cache ?

copy&paste error or a typo in your environment variable?

btw: the option --pdf is no longer needed, as pdf is the default output 
format

Best wishes, Peter

>  No such file or directory
>  MtxRun | fatal error, code 1
>
> and 'texexec --pdf myfile.tex' returns:
>  c:\tools\context\texmf-mswin\bin\mtxrun.lua:8603: attempt to concatenate a
> nil value
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Richard
>
>
>
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