Monday, October 16, 2000 Hans Hagen wrote:

HH> The discussion about << is interesting in itself, since the cmr's don't
HH> have them and using less then signs as substitute is horror for the real
HH> typographer. So far I'm lucky that nobody noticed,

For those who don't remember, the discussion about << was related
to the fact that Italian typography rules want guillemots to be
repeated at the beginning of each paragraph of a speech. Like
this:

<<Hello,>> he said << This is a speech I'm doing.

<<This second paragraph is always me speaking, and it wants a
guillemots too.

<<And so is this one, which is also the last, and thus ends
with closing guillemots.>>

<<I see.>> said the other.

Hans Hagen came out with some code, which I slightly rewrote, and is
attached to this post (btw, the code allows the "repeated" quote
to be different from the initial quote, like in:

<<Hello,>> he said << This is a speech I'm doing.

``This second paragraph is always me speaking, and it wants
quotes too. Note however that it is different from the
{\em beginning|-|of|-|speech} quoting.

``And so is this one, which is also the last, and thus ends
with closing guillemots.>>

).

Now I have another question for Hans Hagen: how do I create
shorcuts |<<| and |>>| similar to the |<| |>| ones, but that
activate speech instead of subsentences?

Finally, for the "horrible guillemots" problem ... have you
thought about using the ones available in the wasy symbol set?

--
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta