From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/19311 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Adam Lindsay Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Going crazy with font conversion (macron)! Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:34:22 +0000 Message-ID: <85ad3445c57b138e5e77a1bbc2734e81@comp.lancs.ac.uk> References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111581120 13029 80.91.229.2 (23 Mar 2005 12:32:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Mar 23 13:31:59 2005 Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DE50g-0004CM-1j for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:30:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1216512801; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:33:19 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15452-05; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:33:14 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F739127D1; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:33:14 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D90A127D1 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:33:13 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15545-03 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:33:12 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk (mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.3.45]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EFA7127C6 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:33:12 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [194.80.37.148] (ind030000002.lancs.ac.uk [194.80.37.148]) by mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2NCXC2e011982 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:33:12 GMT In-Reply-To: Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-MailScanner-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-MailScanner-To: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:19311 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:19311 On 23 Mar 2005, at 11:54, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > Well, then the tilde moves in its right position. > But the macron stays left. > > A font wizard knows what that means?! > It means that there's no \omacron in texnansi (or the other major western encodings used for TeX fonts), and you're asking ConTeXt to synthesise it from an 'o' and a 'textmacron'. It wouldn't surprise me one bit to hear that the Mac handles combining accents differently from TeX, and so the converted font's metrics is going to result in mistakes in building text accents. Interpretation: you're using artificial test cases to verify the font installation. Stick to what you need and know, and you'll probably end up with a character in the encoding. If you do need \omacron and the like, then you could hand-tune macros that accommodate the specific font--see Idris's recent thread on accents, or you could cook up an "expert" encoding (since MacOSX's Helvetica does include that character) like Vit, and switch to that encoding when you need the character, or you could even go with a big unicode font install. I'll be documenting that process sometime. adam