From: Rik Kabel <ConTeXt@rik.users.panix.com>
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl, nvitacolonna@gmail.com
Subject: Re: BibTeX inproceedings entries not rendered correctly in APA style
Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 17:53:49 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <85ca4ca9-e7ee-d15d-34d4-e0aa282a9b8e@rik.users.panix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s8h29i$dh5$1@ciao.gmane.io>
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On 5/24/2021 16:28, Nicola wrote:
> I don't know if this is restricted to inproceedings entries, but
> consider the following test.bib:
>
> @inproceedings{Foo:1983,
> author = {Foo, Bar},
> booktitle = {Booktitle},
> pages = {34--39},
> title = {Title of the paper},
> year = {1983}
> }
>
> When this is typeset:
>
> \usebtxdataset[test.bib]
> \usebtxdefinitions[apa]
> \starttext
> \cite[Foo:1983]
> \placelistofpublications
> \stoptext
>
> the result is:
>
> (Foo, 1983)
> Foo, B. (1983). Title of the paper. In Title of the paper., Booktitle. Author.
>
> I would expect:
>
> (Foo, 1983)
> Foo, B. (1983). Title of the paper. In Booktitle, p. 34–39.
>
> or something similar.
>
> I can reproduce it with ConTeXt from TeX Live 2021 and the current LMTX.
> Is it a bug?
>
> Nicola
This is intended. Or rather, it is a side-effect of the intended behavior.
If you add an editor ("editor={Baz, Bar}") you will get something like:
Foo, B. (1983). Title of the paper. In B. Baz (Ed.), /Booktitle/.
Author.
And if you then add a publisher ("publisher={Paymefirst}") you will get:
Foo, B. (1983). Title of the paper. In B. Bar (Ed.), Booktitle.
Paymefirst.
The APA presumes that you have both an editor and a publisher for pieces
contained in other works. It calls for the use of the author as
publisher if no publisher is present. It is silent about what to do if
you have no editor.
The editor and publisher fields are described as required in
mkiv-publications.pdf (page 85), however, you should be able to define
your own customized btx handling (see chapter 6) to override this,
removing both the editor and the publisher as requirements. Just a
little coding.
(I have previously suggested that repeating the title in the case of a
missing editor should not be done. The behavior has not been changed in
last the two years.)
You should take careful note of the following from page 29 of that manual:
/A note on the APA style: /We get the strong impression that the APA
bibliography style standard was made with the implicit assumption
that manual intervention would be involved in the editing and
production process; It has been an arduous task to create a system
capable of fully conforming to these specifications.
I will add that there is still quite a bit of work to do for APA and
pretty much any other published style. Manual tuning (or editorial
leniency) is required to conform in all but the most basic cases.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-05-24 21:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-24 20:28 Nicola
2021-05-24 21:53 ` Rik Kabel [this message]
2021-05-25 2:12 ` Alan Braslau
2021-05-25 3:10 ` Rik Kabel
2021-05-25 15:20 ` Alan Braslau
2021-05-27 20:21 ` Nicola
2021-05-28 15:52 ` Alan Braslau
2021-05-28 17:02 ` Aditya Mahajan
2021-05-28 18:21 ` Alan Braslau
2021-05-28 19:52 ` Nicola
2021-05-28 20:33 ` Alan Braslau
2021-05-29 3:30 ` Rik Kabel
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