From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/25595 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Thomas A. Schmitz" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Problem with German quotes and kerning Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:43:16 +0100 Message-ID: <8619B941-C03E-4A6D-BB9F-18BCA37FE30B@uni-bonn.de> References: <1BFDD604-4DEB-41EE-8B78-61A4811B8160@uni-bonn.de> <6faad9f00601250445r10e89c52x4401f0017dfffde2@mail.gmail.com> <6faad9f00601261653o214ea426pa4f3110f71200362@mail.gmail.com> <43D9DF2C.8060401@elvenkind.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138355171 6130 80.91.229.2 (27 Jan 2006 09:46:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Jan 27 10:46:01 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F2QB2-0004St-JU for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:45:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0171277F; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:45:56 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26673-02; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:45:56 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D341279D; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:44:13 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423451279D for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:44:11 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26451-06 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:44:10 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 21A531279B for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:44:05 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F2Q9F-0004Zv-04; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:44:05 +0100 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.2] (E62Pr+ZEZehqlrM7rD1W5-p435CFISnxRB1JOFKZ5M-CtWa0+ovPYS@[84.172.107.17]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F2Q98-1y6GQ40; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:43:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: <43D9DF2C.8060401@elvenkind.com> Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-ID: E62Pr+ZEZehqlrM7rD1W5-p435CFISnxRB1JOFKZ5M-CtWa0+ovPYS@t-dialin.net X-TOI-MSGID: ed18079c-170c-41d2-bbec-68c0850e8a4b X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:25595 Archived-At: Taco, I hate doing it, but I have to disagree ;-) I was trying to fix this kerning issue for one of the (commercial) fonts I'm using often. If ConTeXt doesn't handle this kerning issue right, there is no incentive to correct the situation because nobody gains anything from improvements. So my 2 cents: First ConTeXt has to handle kerning in this situation, then we can go and improve the fonts. And of course you're right: \quotesinglebase cum suis has to have kerning as well. Best Thomas On Jan 27, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Well, if there was correct kerning in the font, then ConTeXt > could at least attempt to do the right thing. As is, all efforts > in this area are wasted because not even the font itself is > right. Until that is fixed, there is no gain to be had from > fixing the current status quo (the font should also have > a kern between \quotesinglebase and itself, btw) > > Cheers, Taco