From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,URIBL_SBL_A autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 22815 invoked from network); 7 May 2023 13:08:16 -0000 Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (5.39.185.232) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 May 2023 13:08:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6230D1C2F83; Sun, 7 May 2023 15:07:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.ntg.nl Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sPfarqlWBpfK; Sun, 7 May 2023 15:07:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1AF1C2F20; Sun, 7 May 2023 15:07:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B721C2F20 for ; Sun, 7 May 2023 15:07:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.ntg.nl Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UU8yZIpGYaUL for ; Sun, 7 May 2023 15:07:36 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=185.233.34.20; helo=outbound.soverin.net; envelope-from=j.hagen@freedom.nl; receiver= Received: from outbound.soverin.net (outbound.soverin.net [185.233.34.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A8C71C2EC7 for ; Sun, 7 May 2023 15:07:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.freedom.nl (c04smtp-lb01.int.sover.in [10.10.4.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by outbound.soverin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QDl8766Zyz5Y; Sun, 7 May 2023 13:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.freedom.nl (smtp.freedom.nl [10.10.4.108]) by freedom.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4QDl872lDvz5Y; Sun, 7 May 2023 13:07:35 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=freedom.nl; s=default; t=1683464855; bh=+hO/IEwaGaAW66T12d8JfXvsQiv1emWM6SMxdjVXZpo=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=jGZl3bf4v57su6NFEQIP4PB4Go6UI9CDpUdYLp+bQeJCnYdDuKju71iv+1vaRiRbb cN8V6yJiL0PwVeIpXYgJDP0Dx7Z/wWyRi/5LHHiIi3A/orjo7LYlxYBKHFGUjrm65K wLaLJ6AGVwn2XLi+GlbfOHhWKBS4NOURWAWYMJSM= ARC-Seal: i=1; s=default; d=freedom.nl; t=1683464855; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=m8pjEyCc3VSAIiUfLlQk/CGRv6mJ3W77xnU++1+kyPAir8RCR1JVw3MpV68wQbVErXmqEC lIlM5OWz8JEt/qy9cFJ9N0BTDBvLW21tXtfEeLKnyt6gkc0p5nm/0xze611m5eGLrbEpsR kOwGqY2F5wcyjNik97jI9IHiVQFHZuY= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; smtp.freedom.nl; auth=pass smtp.mailfrom=j.hagen@freedom.nl ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freedom.nl; s=default; t=1683464855; h=from:from:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Bp+FORVLq5ubmq5YxUl62dGw8gcjo/CJyg/WP78BHcM=; b=I1w4abkB0D/cNbOtaHygzDv2wQIWoD/68QL2+MyKOWBIT22oU0FyR4Ya+7IF6aoTgL8aTk BHrlcUwGBdkJAEnx4gUOTr84/b1PYD21y4iNnmw5HD+8BP3yCEXSd3nP2lBO2QL1XxRuCw dRGJsSGldcNw4fz995826CHkajlpwRA= Message-ID: <868a2f11-530b-7611-effc-58e60da021ee@freedom.nl> Date: Sun, 7 May 2023 15:07:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en-US To: Bruce Horrocks , ntg-context mailing list References: <62e368a7-9883-113e-a2eb-ee0089b5e188@fiee.net> X-Soverin-Authenticated: true In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [NTG-context] new units X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.38 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Hans Hagen via ntg-context Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Hans Hagen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sender: "ntg-context" On 5/7/2023 2:00 PM, Bruce Horrocks wrote: > > >> On 7 May 2023, at 10:45, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: >> >> ps. For those unfamiliar with the tex community, when we talk 'research' and such, keep in mind that most tex related research is kind of bogus, wishful thinking, sounding serious, etc. and that most 'projects' are just 'activities by enthousiatic users' In the end it's all about esthetics which is more about feeling and intuition and pretty much driven by user demsnds. In a similar fashion most 'tex conferences' are more user meetings. > > > Will there be new units to represent the amount of alcohol that has to be imbibed in order to (a) create the joke and (b) understand it? > > I'm not sure which of these needs to be the larger. Perhaps that could be the subject of the next research? During the meeting (aka conference) and in preparation Mikael and I were on 0% alcohol beers, so effectively that unit would then be a multiplier of zero, but I'm sure you can find a usage for that. I forgot to check what the pct was of the wine at the (as usual) huge dinner but I can check the bottle I got from DT. Talking percentages, maybe some high res percentage primitive is interesting (we have .4\somedimen but for counters one needs to cheat a bit). Actually we were talking of some 'eps' and interval based comparison in order to avoid small issues with accumulated rounding (in the sp range) but that is a side track. 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