* Re: [Dev-luatex] new/missing feature in luamplib [not found] <30B8277D-B6D7-4920-A050-F51B9DA459E6@web.de> @ 2012-08-07 8:12 ` Hans Hagen 2012-08-07 8:33 ` Taco Hoekwater 0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-08-07 8:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Keith J. Schultz; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users, dev-luatex On 7-8-2012 09:29, Keith J. Schultz wrote: > Hi Manuel, Everybody, > > I am just getting into LuaLaTeX. > > I needed to do some work with MetaPost. > > While working I came across a kudo. That is once inside the mblibcode > environment one can not call Lua. THIS I consider a missing feature and > a VERY important one. Some (simple) support for lua calls is on the (long term) agenda but not before the current mplib extensions project is done (i.e. the decimal calculation plugins). Calling lua in itself is not so much an issue; after all one can just do a \directlua inside a blob of mp passed to mplib (I do that all the time). For an lua 'primitive' in mplib (which then probably would just be called just 'lua') we first need to figure out: 1 - how to access mp internals (and that relates to the mentioned decimal extensions, as we might need to get and set) 2 - if and how we can share the state with the (main) tex lua instance 3 - how we want to print back to mp (like tex.[s]print) It's one of those feature we have discussed (maybe too) long ago, but because it has to be more than just (3) it never ended up first on the todo list (first finishing the main lib). The problem with these things is that it has to be mostly 'right from the start' in order not to conflict too much with long term usage). Anyhow, if you play with such things, best have something lua "mp.print(123)" Given mp's somewhat different parsing and expansion compared to tex there are also some conceptual issues involved. It also relates to input buffers (and file reading) and io is somewhat messy in mp and on the agenda for cleaning up. (Luigi Scarso has done this with metafont, so that might be a starting point for experimenting.) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
* Re: [Dev-luatex] new/missing feature in luamplib 2012-08-07 8:12 ` [Dev-luatex] new/missing feature in luamplib Hans Hagen @ 2012-08-07 8:33 ` Taco Hoekwater [not found] ` <86A1AFB8-7483-4B6A-9A52-758DECEF6B96-KIERECuABvX/D1n+0JDH9g@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2012-08-07 8:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users, dev-luatex Hi, On Aug 7, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 7-8-2012 09:29, Keith J. Schultz wrote: >> Hi Manuel, Everybody, >> >> I am just getting into LuaLaTeX. >> >> I needed to do some work with MetaPost. >> >> While working I came across a kudo. That is once inside the mblibcode >> environment one can not call Lua. THIS I consider a missing feature and >> a VERY important one. > > Some (simple) support for lua calls is on the (long term) agenda but not before the current mplib extensions project is done (i.e. the decimal calculation plugins). > > Calling lua in itself is not so much an issue; after all one can just do a \directlua inside a blob of mp passed to mplib (I do that all the time). I was under the impression that this was all that the proposed patch does. Luamplib did not allow any (tex nor lua) escapes within the block, if I understand correctly. Best wishes, Taco ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
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* Re: new/missing feature in luamplib [not found] ` <86A1AFB8-7483-4B6A-9A52-758DECEF6B96-KIERECuABvX/D1n+0JDH9g@public.gmane.org> @ 2012-08-07 9:00 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-08-07 9:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Taco Hoekwater; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users, dev-luatex-wvrSQK3plZs On 7-8-2012 10:33, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Hi, > > On Aug 7, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: > >> On 7-8-2012 09:29, Keith J. Schultz wrote: >>> Hi Manuel, Everybody, >>> >>> I am just getting into LuaLaTeX. >>> >>> I needed to do some work with MetaPost. >>> >>> While working I came across a kudo. That is once inside the mblibcode >>> environment one can not call Lua. THIS I consider a missing feature and >>> a VERY important one. >> >> Some (simple) support for lua calls is on the (long term) agenda but not before the current mplib extensions project is done (i.e. the decimal calculation plugins). >> >> Calling lua in itself is not so much an issue; after all one can just do a \directlua inside a blob of mp passed to mplib (I do that all the time). > > I was under the impression that this was all that the proposed patch does. Luamplib > did not allow any (tex nor lua) escapes within the block, if I understand correctly. ok, so it's not a luatex/mplib issue but something for the maintainer of that package as deciding what characters need what catcode is a package issue (probably obeying \ { } is enough then) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
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