From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/31513 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Frank =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=FCster?= Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: ConTeXt on Debian: The wiki entry Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:34:40 +0200 Message-ID: <86hcxt25xr.fsf@alhambra.kuesterei.ch> References: <453D38AD.1010608@wxs.nl> <86hcxufedo.fsf@alhambra.kuesterei.ch> <453DCC3A.40503@wxs.nl> <86ods25bpu.fsf@alhambra.kuesterei.ch> <453DFA02.2030106@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1161696924 30040 80.91.229.2 (24 Oct 2006 13:35:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:35:24 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Oct 24 15:35:21 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GcMQp-0001yh-4T for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:35:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FED1FE86; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:35:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24246-02; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:34:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445A11FE47; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:34:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528DD1FE52 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:34:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24235-03-2 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:34:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from idmailgate2.unizh.ch (idmailgate2.unizh.ch [130.60.127.101]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F67C1FCE4 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:34:44 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (zilnx55.unizh.ch [130.60.127.87]) by idmailgate2.unizh.ch (8.13.7/8.13.7/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k9ODYidB017871 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:34:44 +0200 Original-Received: from idmailgate2.unizh.ch ([130.60.127.101]) by localhost (virus4.unizh.ch [130.60.127.87]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23113-07 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:34:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost ([130.60.169.110]) by idmailgate2.unizh.ch (8.13.7/8.13.7/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k9ODYfUX017826 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:34:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost.localdomain) by localhost with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GcMQS-0001pz-VD for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:34:41 +0200 Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users X-Attribution: fant X-Ehrenamt: http://www.langau.de In-Reply-To: <453DFA02.2030106@wxs.nl> (Hans Hagen's message of "Tue\, 24 Oct 2006 13\:33\:22 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unizh.ch X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:31513 Archived-At: Hans Hagen wrote: [ horror story snipped ] > anyhow, by now, no alias file should be present in any tex root any = > more; it was a bad idea anyway I always thought that the purpose of the aliases file was that a non-existent (no, nay, never, nowhere ever) filename was aliased to an existent one, like in the documentation part: % documentation TETEXDOC.pdf teTeX.pdf etex-man.pdf etex.pdf pdftex-a.pdf pdftex.pdf testeuro.dvi eurosym.dvi If the rest of the aliases covers files that might exist as real files on some systems - I agree, what a bad idea. > pool files normally are in web2c paths; future versions of pdftex and = > mpost have the pool file embedded so this problem will (hopefully) disapp= ear Ah, I didn't know that. pdftex 1.40 doesn't have this already, has it? > hm, interesting; lean and mean texmf.cnf files can speed up things a lot > > when playing with luatex (where i intend to replace kpse completely with = > a lua based variant) it is possible to have format specific file = > databases; this runs much faster; this whole ls-r stuff is pretty outdated Oh, yes, it is. Current kpse also has the "side effect" that on most systems, users are able to fill up the /var/ partition by generating pixel fonts... = Karl (or was it Olaf?) once said there are plans for a complete replacement of libkpathsea, named kpse - would that be obsolete with luatex? Could there be a C wrapper about lua's kpse? > sure, but (i'm not sure if this is still true) running tex live = > alongside a tetex was always kind of problematic due to path settings = > and this autoparent mess then deriving locations of texmf.cnf from it This is probably still a problem in standard-setup systems. = Regards, Frank -- = Dr. Frank K=FCster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Z= =FCrich Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive)